meandmy4? Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 Of to read through BSL. I guess the way some people feel very strongly about there dogs I feel the same about that little boy. However it happened it cannot be allowed to happen again 3 times in a year is to frequent. I love my dogs as much as the next person ffs I give up half of my life to helping dogs that idiots dump and get bored of, but something has to be put in place soon. Of to read through BSL. I guess the way some people feel very strongly about there dogs I feel the same about that little boy. However it happened it cannot be allowed to happen again 3 times in a year is to frequent. I love my dogs as much as the next person ffs I give up half of my life to helping dogs that idiots dump and get bored of, but something has to be put in place soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 I have refrained from commenting so far on this thread as I think tempers are running high but firstly I have to say that a few comments from supposed Dog Lovers and those that are supposed to be involved in Rescue have really left me shaking my head i think the majority of people that use this Board have one thing in common..... their love of dogs, surely the breed of dog is purely instrumental? Meandmy4, in a previous thread on here you stated that Rott owners should be licenced? you openly stated on here that you were going to leave a foster dog that had been in your house less than 24 hrs alone with your 14 year old son? but its ok cos he is "dog savvy", he may very well be but could you put your hand on your heart and say that a dog that you had only known for a few hours was "kid savvy"? you then go on to say you would like to own a rott one day??? I sincerely hope not! Incidently my kids are "dog savvy" too and we have fosters in and out of here all the time but steps are taken at all times to ensure the safety of my kids. I can count on one hand the amount of FRR dogs that have been placed in homes with kids this is not because we don't trust the dogs but rather its the kids we don't trust neither do we rehome our dogs directly from kennels all our dogs are placed in experienced foster homes and thoroughly assessed before being placed, this you cannot do with dogs in kennels as dogs exhibit different behaviours whilst in kennels and vice versa. We take great pride in the work that we do, not only do we rehome rottweilers but we work bloody hard to promote the breed as a whole which is why our rehoming criteria is so strict so to come on here and see such ignorent comments does really make me angry. Rottweilers are not the breed for everyone we appreciate that but similiarly we ask not to comdemn the whole breed because of one incident nor to condemn them without getting to know some personally. excuse the rant! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzie Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 according to a post on dp a rottie rescue in Wales has had 12 hand overs yesterday and MT has took in 3 today?? Sorry to say I don't think they were handed in by genuine "loving" owners, I may be wrong, but its just the excuse to get rid of their dogs. Genuine rotty owners wouldn't just get rid of their beloved pets. Simliar circumstances surrounds the lady with the Dogue deBordeaux on the radio last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purrpuss Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 I guess the way some people feel very strongly about there dogs I feel the same about that little boy. I'm sorry meandmy4, but that really is quite offensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmagic Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 I these people really believe that their dogs are dangerous why are they passing them on to a rescue? That is not a responsible action. I agree that they are using this an excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie No Dots Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 Of to read through BSL. I guess the way some people feel very strongly about there dogs I feel the same about that little boy. However it happened it cannot be allowed to happen again 3 times in a year is to frequent. I love my dogs as much as the next person ffs I give up half of my life to helping dogs that idiots dump and get bored of, but something has to be put in place soon. . Im sorry and im really trying not to find fault with your posts but I find it incredibly insulting that you would consistantly post people may not care about children killed by dogs and that people may place their dogs above the life of a child. How dare you? I have four children and four dogs. I have pts dogs we took in via staffycross that i felt where not safe. I have suggested people pts dogs because the risk outweighs any other option. Elliee was the same age as my eldest daughter. Ive lost a neice, I know what that feels like to lose a much loved and wanted child. Dont you dare keep implying we place a child life lower than a dogs. We do not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EGAR Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 I these people really believe that their dogs are dangerous why are they passing them on to a rescue? That is not a responsible action. I agree that they are using this an excuse. It beats having to be there when they are being PTS'd... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happylittlegreensquirrel Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 (edited) I'm sorry meandmy4, but that really is quite offensive. I totally agree, at no point HAS ANY ONE HERE DISMISSED THE CHILDS DEATH ooh that appears to be me shouting , now longer term members know I don't get cross very often , I can normally see every ones side of a discussion etc but I am cross now I am telling you now that one more , just one more comment like that and I am going to place you on premod your choice Edited December 30, 2007 by Happylittlegreensquirrel to add missing words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReikiAnge Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 Of to read through BSL. I guess the way some people feel very strongly about there dogs I feel the same about that little boy. However it happened it cannot be allowed to happen again 3 times in a year is to frequent. I love my dogs as much as the next person ffs I give up half of my life to helping dogs that idiots dump and get bored of, but something has to be put in place soon. You make it sound as though no one else on here feels strongly that a little boy has lost his life! Try imagining how you might feel if your breed's existence was being threatened due to the hysteria created by the media and those who believe what the media has to say. You have a lab I believe? Someone on here has already posted about being severely attacked by a lab and yet they haven't called for labs to be banned - imagine if they did, if your dog's life was threatened because of a single, but very tragic, incident involving a completely different dog of the same breed. (Labs, along with collies, are my favourite breed by the way). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 there's a "rescue" stating on the net that "it has started already", but some of the dogs came from the pound therefore would have had to have been in 7 days or the Owners were moving abroad bit of a snap decision to be made from friday I would have thought? so is this "rescues" jumping on the bandwagon to create some sympathy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumpole Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 I'm sorry meandmy4, but that really is quite offensive. i agree it is offensive i dont think there is any doubt throughout this thread that everyone feels that way about the baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathyM Posted December 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 I'm sorry meandmy4, but that really is quite offensive. I completely agree, I have 3 children AND 2 large dogs of "bull" breeds. I have seen nothing but sympathy and grief for the little boy on this thread, irregardless of the type of dog anyone owns. And I'm very sorry that everyone's gentle guiding of you towards tact and thought is *still* not working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redditchlady Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 Totally. Im 7 stone and my dogs weigh in at a total of 130 kilo. They do as i ask not what i physically force them to do. Exactly Allie!! My max is 48 kgs and I ask that's all. Any dog should not have to be overpowered by anyone to do as it is asked. I have just read on another forum that the dog that killed Ellie Laurenson lived outside as did the 2 rotties that killed the boy at the pub and as did this rottie that killed the boy. Surely this has to be more than coincidence. These have to be guard dogs that are not socialised at all. Seems a huge link there between the 3. It is not family pets doing this maybe that should be emphasised more as It makes us look at it in a different light to us guys who dont really know the breed. Yes and if you read the tabloids and the news sites the Rottie on Friday was living outside, yes, but socialised too. you really dont have a clue what you are talking about do you? maybe beore you form opinions you should seek out more information on the subject. i too am glad you have reconsidered having a rottie, the last thing the breed needs is somone who is not commited to it and who takes one on without knowing the first thing about them Hallelujah We are not all experts. I will always see it as a childs death 1st and foremost I cant help that its the way I am and to me that is the most important isuue a child lost its life. I never once said I was popping out to buy a rottie out of freeads I simply said "maybe one day would have one" which is very different.I find it very offensive the personal attacks coming my way as I have a different opinion, must I think the same as the majority to post. I havent personally attacked anyone just asked questions to further knowledge and understand and build up an all round picture. Please if you don't want retalliation, then think before you hit the send. Sorry, if my post seems abrupt, but I have had it today with narrow minded people. My 2 GSDs have taken the brunt over the fields. I was told yesterday Max should be PTS because he is on wheels, today I have people pointing and saying Max and Korky should be muzzled. Christ it is a shame people are so narrow minded. I just hope the people like Rick and Bobbie with Rotties don't cop too much flack On that note, off to grab a can of Lager to calm down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peachy Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 I really don't think meandmy4? means to sound as she does in her posts. If only the posts were read out loud before pressing 'Post'..... To quote 'Tony Blair' in The Queen (regarding the monarchy) - "Can somebody please save these people from themselves?" meandmy4? - Read back through some of your comments, read the replies and respond to them. You haven't addressed people's concerns for what you implied or helped to explain what you meant and, if you did, it might help us understand your viewpoint a little more. Please understand that your posts are very unclear and therefore ambiguous. Due to this, your views are coming across as so ill-informed with lots of sweeping statements. It's upsetting because you seem to be ignoring comments by not responding but keep on posting further remarks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiona711 Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 I too have sat on my hands all the way through this thread . we are all very much aware that a child has lost his life and on the whole everyone has expressed their regret/sympathy for the wee lad and his family but as dog lovers we are all too aware that this type of media frenzy can only have a really bad effect on the breed of dog involved because narrow minded stupid people insist on blaming a whole breed for the actions of one dog . We do not know and probably never will get the fuill facts of what actually happened but we all know it was a tragic accident . Meandmy4 you have been advised to go and educate yourself on the fight against BSL i suggest you do it , and just in case you did not know , the french woman that had the first ever face transplant was attacked by her own dog , would you like to hazard a guess at the breed ? Was it a so called Devil Dog ? No it was her own pet Labrador , does that mean all labs should be targetted and slagged off as a breed for the actions of one? A few years ago 2 jack russels killed a baby , were they all then classed as dangerous dogs? No , as others have said any breed of dog could depending on circumstances act in a dangerous way , but that does not make the whole breed dangerous . Tragically children die in all kinds of accidents all over the world every single day , car crashes , at the hands of their parents etc etc etc but when it is a dog that causes a death for what ever reason under what ever circumstances the media goes into a frenzy baying for blood it sickens me and a lot of other people on here who all love dogs and have taken the time to understand their behaviour . Another point to consider is would anyone in their right mind leave a child in a room alone with a loaded gun or a very sharp knife ? By themselves a gun or knife is not dangerous but they can be . Car crashes are another thing that happen every day people are killed and maimed on the roads , A drunk driver kills a family through their own sheer stupidity of getting behind the wheel under those circumstances would it be acceptable to ban a certain make of car because an idiot got in the drivers seat ? maybe it was a BMW would it be sensible to ban all BMW's ? No u punish the fool in charge of the car not the make of car . Education in being a responsible dog owner is not something that comes naturally to some people but if they are willing to learn a hell of a lot of these kind of incidents could be avoided BUT there will always be accidents for which there is nobody to blame at all . Please think before you speak Fiona xx Fiona xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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