elricc Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 I wouldn't be able to live with myself, paying for a dog when thousands are dieing for want of a loving home with someone who cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merledogs Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 If I didn't have Katie I would be more than happy to give a home to a needy dog with issues. But she has had such a hard time during her 4 years of life that I will not consider taking a dog into the house unless I am absolutely convinced that it will be okay with her. And that it won't add to her problems. But what about getting a puppy from rescue rather than an adult dog with issues? How will getting a puppy from a breeder rather than getting a similar puppy from a rescue make a difference? You have no guarantees either way and your breeder bought pup could end up causing problems or being the perfect dog for your household in exactly the same way a puppy from a rescue could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClazUK Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Ok. So you want a specific breed. You've researched it and it's the one for you. The problem is there are non available in rescue and you have looked for about 12 months. Do you go to a reputable breeder and buy one? No. Never in a million years. Unless you have a specific working requirement, no-one 'needs' a specific breed. There will be something close to what you want in rescue. Creating a demand for breeder bred puppies also creates a whole litter, too. You might be a responsible owner, who is to say the other 5 - 8 families will? Tracey - there are no more certanties with breeder bred puppies than rescue puppies (apart friom the lineage, obviously). Talk to Mindy and Wendy about the amount of unwanted labrador pups they deal with on an annual basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranirottie Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 apart from my Ebbi that I bred for myself both my other dogs were rescues that just stayed! I am not particularly into jack russells but they both needed to stay for their own reasons. I love rotties but I never know what my next dog will be. I have a bull mastiff bitch here that I would love to keep but she has some lovely people coming to see her tomorrow so I'm sure they will want her. I have two gentle sweet boys up the yard,a GSD and a Dobermann but I don't do boys so I am not tempted to keep them. Who knows what the next temptation will be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 As GSDs are my thing then I am unlikely to ever be faced with that choice as there are sadly so many in rescue including pups. Having said that one day I would love to have another show dog which would obviously have to come from a good breeder. I personally have no problem with people buying from reputable breeders if that is the right choice for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 One day we will have a Tibetan Spaniel and a Husky which will probably be breeder bought. Tibetan pups rarely come up in rescue (adults do occasionally in Ireland). The Husky will HAVE to be a very young pup which is very unlikely in a rescue, my reason is simple - im a responcible owner! With such a difficult breed i want to be 100% sure that it is brought up and socialised to the best of my ability from day one, im afraid i just wont risk having a needy breed like that with no known background. I do alot for rescue in my own way and plan on doing more in the future, my dogs get the very best of everything and i wont feel bad for wanting to get something from a particular breed. Just as one day i will have a collie that is ready, willing and able to do agility with me as its looking like Hebe may not be able Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycas Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 I'm not 1/2 as involved in rescue as many of the people on here. I wonder whether people who are more involved in rescue tend to lean towards rescue rather than breeder simply because you are aware of the need for good homes / fosters etc. I really don't believe that the general public are aware of the rescue situations, the DNB stuff I have read on here, Greyhound welfare, etc etc etc. People I have spoken to just within my owm family / social circle are of the impression that rescue = problems. I've heard that too recently, though I'm not sure where that notion springs from. We always had rescue dogs in our family: OK, a couple of the more recent ones could be described as 'problem dogs' (taken on with eyes wide open) but most of them were just perfectly nice, normal dogs. I'm still trying to work out what the right response should have been to my colleague who told me 'I'm planning a family, so I didn't want to get anything with problems so I can't have a rescue dog' (she has 2 choccy labs, one 12 weeks, one a year old). Having said that, I think there may be an argument that if you are looking for a very small, every-thing-friendly, well behaved young dog of known background, not a terrier - surely most rescues will be able to home that sort of dog very quickly? And if there is a waiting list of homes for dogs that match that description, and you cannot take one that doesn't match it, does it really affect rescue dogs one way or another if someone chooses to go elsewhere? I mean fair enough, if there are, say 1000 labs in rescue of different shapes sizes and behaviours, then buying a lab from a breeder means that number doesn't go down to 999, and could also mean it goes up, as some of the other pups end up in rescue. But if there are, say, 3 pugs in rescue, and a queue of 20 homes checked and waiting for a pug, who will not consider adopting a non-pug, then the potential pug-rescuers aren't really going to affect the balance one way or the other if they buy from a breeder instead, are they? Except by insisting they must have a pug rather than, say a staffy. And I can't really blame them for that: it's not their fault that there is a surplus of staffies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katiebob Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Sorry to appear to be controversial but if I'd researched a breed and I definitely wanted that breed then I have to say I would not get a rescue of that breed as my first choice, unless perhaps it came via a breed rescue who could ensure that I got one who showed the characteristics of that breed and no other undesirable characteristics. I'm sure most of you will be up in arms at this remark but in my own breed (rough collies) I have fostered quite a few rough collies for both breed rescue and general rescues and some are as unlike typical rough collies (i.e. from a reputable breeder with a sound upbringing) as you could imagine Some have been extremely difficult - not for the faint-hearted in any way; most have needed someone with experience of the breed to ensure that they don't bounce out of their home. I think I can honestly say that I've only fostered one who would have been fine for someone who hadn't owned the breed previously. There are exceptions to this of course such as pups (unless from a byb) or from a home who have had to give their much loved dog up for personal reasons. The sad thing about all of this is that a well-bred rough collie (i.e. free from genetic problems), from a reputable breeder who has socialised their pups and fed, wormed, played with their pups is an easy dog In many cases, the ones who turn up in rescue are genetically unsound and have been deprived of a normal puppyhood in one way or another. I'm NOT saying this is true of all rescue dogs which appear in the breed and I'm certainly not saying it's true of ALL rescue dogs - far from it. Just speaking from my experience of the ones I've had here. To be fair, someone who was experienced with rescue dogs would also be a suitable home for most of these dogs, not just those who had experience of the breed. I think if I'd researched a breed and wanted one, I'd buy one from a reputable breeder first - get to know the breed and everything about it - and then I'd go look for a rescue dog of that breed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReikiAnge Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Not that I'm looking for another dog after losing Sweetie and not that I envisage I'd have problems finding a dog in rescue to fit in with us, if I was, but ... if I was looking and really couldn't find a suitable rescue dog, I'd just stick with the dogs we have, until things were different. I know numerous people with breeder bought dogs and they have great homes, but *I* just couldn't go to a breeder, having volunteered for a number of rescues and seen all the poundie threads on here and elsewhere, with all those dogs desperate for a place in rescue, so they don't get pts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobleronie Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 My choice of dog is Labrador and allways will be Labrador, not exactly a rarity to come up in rescue I know but should I want a puppy of a certain type i.e. working or show I would still turn to breed rescue. I have had puppies given up to us at the young age of only 10 weeks with exemplary working and show pedigrees and believe it or not its ten times harder for me to rehome these puppies than it is older dogs because most people think that rescues only have older problem dogs - its not the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Rescue Lover Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Personally I will always have rescue dogs. I could never buy from a breeder when there are so many in rescue (especially greys and lurchers!). My in-laws are the opposite - they will always have Munsterlanders, which are very rare in rescue, and will always have a pup from a reputable breeder. For them, they adore the breed. For me, so do I, but I wouldn't buy one over a rescue dog needing a home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix21 Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 no-one 'needs' a specific breed. No i really do need a staffie!!! how else am i to get my face washed every morning? lol i know what you mean though - there are so many dogs in rescue that there must be one for everyone or at least a similar breed/xbreed to one they are looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happylittlegreensquirrel Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 I think its a great thing that there are some breeds that don't end up in rescue often , hopefully means there some breeds that are not being overbred and breeders are taking them back if they need rehoming. The problem to me is not that that there are very few of breed x in rescue but there 1000's of breed y instead , and whilst there are 1000s of breed y requiring a home then I would not even consider looking at breed x let alone buying one my dogs are all cross breeds ( 2 lurcher's and a collie x something ) when they potter off to the rainbow bridge we will have more dogs. Probably something different ( and equally squirrelly ) it will be our circumstances at the time and what type of home we can offer that will dictate the next generation of rescue squirrel dogs Mark and I don't have a "breed" as such , we are of course very fond of sighthounds and collies but equally we are very fond of labs and staffys so who knows same with cats , I do like mad long haired cats and both Floydy ( Chinchilla Persian ) and Gertie ( Janet Street Porter Blue Persain ) have been rescues. I will never buy a mad long haired cat or short haired one for that matter and would rather live without a cat than buy one Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReikiAnge Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 The problem to me is not that that there are very few of breed x in rescue but there 1000's of breed y instead , and whilst there are 1000s of breed y requiring a home then I would not even consider looking at breed x let alone buying one That's very well put and I totally agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendbert Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 no-one 'needs' a specific breed. My thoughts exactly. No offence to anyone, but I just don't get it. Why do you 'need' a certain breed, whether to fit in with current dogs, show or whatever. If you have dogs with issues, why not wait until they have gone rather than buy a puppy? There is no guarantee of temperament nor health from buying a pup. Do you 'need' to show? Does your life depend on it? I really cannot understand how people who are involved in rescue or on rescue forums etc and are aware of the thousands of dogs put to sleep each year yet still go and buy a pup. Ok, so the breeder may be ok etc etc but buy creating the demand for that litter, there's potentially another 5 or 6 or more dogs from that litter that could go on to have pups that end up in rescue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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