Dharma Hurt - Ocd?

[sanrossscot]

for you and Dharma.

 

Keira (collie) was diagnosed with OCD, it was basically a loose bit of cartilidge floating in and out of her shoulder joint that caused lameness. She just limpd on and off, and was never in severe pain.

 

Vet sounds like an arse, I hope you can maybe see another vet next time.

[blackmagic]

have you seen these links

 

http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=...21&aid=3539

 

http://www.justanswer.com/questions/1drc4-...-5-weeks-ago-ve

 

I would definitely ask for another vet in the practice. Remember, you are the paying customer.

 

Would you not qualify for PDSA or Rspca treatment?

[safneo]

:GroupHug: Kathy and Dharma. Please take Pboae up on her offer to see another vet. Yours sounds at best a right numpty! I wonder if she was thinking Dharma was a boxer Surprising how many dont know their breeds. Make sure that you give Dharma plenty of rest for a few days. Try playing 'find' games instead and give her her dinner in food toys to keep her occupied. I would maybe try and keep her off the furniture and from going upstairs for a few days too if its the front shoulder as it will be taking a lot of weight (even for a lean girl) coming down stairs or off things. Not sure if you can afford it or not, but hydrotherapy might help. I've had to stop taking Saffy to hydro recently due to the cost but some are cheaper than others. Maybe some arnica might help too if she has pulled something or has some kind of bruising internally. I hope you can get her seen by someone who can help you.

 

Gentle for Dharma

[KathyM]

Thanks very much all of you - and thanks for those links, I will read them now. Yes we qualify for PDSA treatment, unfortunately in my experience they do not carry out specialist treatment/diagnoses. So unlikely to be able to help, other than as a 2nd opinion that she'll need a specialist - I also worry that they would defer to a PTS decision based entirely on funding. I will ring them tomorrow and see what they say though.

 

PS: Pooby - just saw your offer and thank you so so much, I may take you up on that if it's necessary, and we very much appreciate it.

[Rumpole]

kathy ping me on msn re vets

 

 

re amputation of front limb on bullmastiff it is not a problem i have the living proof of that as chris ryder of bullmastiff welfare has a front limb amputee of four years standing who is perfectly fine but lets hope it wont be nessesary, we will help if we can

[pboae]

PS: Pooby - just saw your offer and thank you so so much, I may take you up on that if it's necessary, and we very much appreciate it.

 

Anytime Kathy, and you know I wouldn't offer if I didn't mean it. Give her a gentle squidge from me.

[KathyM]

I will do and you know she'll love it. Thank you so much!

 

I've had a good chat with Chris at Bullmastiff Welfare and she's shared some experiences with me that have got me fired up and ready to face things more. I'm changing vets for a start off, I've been saying that for a long time and clung on hoping Rui would return (he looked after Ruby) and he hasn't. That woman isn't laying another finger on Dharma.

[celeste]

That woman isn't laying another finger on Dharma.

 

Go Kathy go Kathy

[griff]

i have nothing useful to add regarding the OCD side of things but just wanted to say i think you are right to change vets, make sure you let them know why you are changing too, if i were dharma i would've bit the silly cow so hard! i hope you see an improvement soon :GroupHug:

[Mrs Mop]

Sorry Kathy, I have only just seen this. I have said several times before if you need transport you only have to say, that still stands.

 

Can you put a photo up showing the shoulder that is bad and I will send her Reiki, I am sure others will do as well.

 

Hitting a dog is not the way to find out if she is in pain, she shouldn't be a vet is that is how she does it.

[KathyM]

Hi you lot

 

Thanks ever so much for the messages. Baz and I have had a trip down to the vets to talk with the head vet. Unfortunately as we were waiting, a lady came in with her collapsed dog, she was carrying her and about to drop her so I held her for her. She had died, the owner didn't know (she thought she had collapsed unconscious), it was all very very sad. So immediately we were already very emotional (obviously not as much as the poor dog's owners - I can't imagine how terrible they feel now and my heart goes out to them).

 

Anyway, I spoke to the head vet who didn't really allay any of our concerns about the vet we saw, but did outline things much better. It is not OCD in his opinion. We know there is a loss of radial nerve function (she has absolutely no feeling in her foot), he suspects it might be originating from an issue with her spinal discs (?). Then again, she might have a fracture further down he says (God knows how, but there you go).

 

He said if we havent got £2,000 - £3,000 spare up front, there's no point in referring her to a specialist. He says we have two options, either to go ahead now and get x-rays (which we could've done days ago, grrrr), or to wait and rest her and see if it gets better, which is risky. If he gets x-rays he *might* be able to diagnose her problem (if for example disc spacing problems show up), but it might not show anything. The first thing a specialist will want is those though, so that's what we think we need to go ahead and sort out.

 

Moneywise he's quoted me a minimum of £260 with a discount, so I'm going to check out the other vet too just to ensure that's a fair price (or to get them familiar with her case and shift her). I don't know if the PDSA have x-ray facilities, I'm assuming so, but that's a long trip (that would require me taking up one of you on your very kind offer of transport). So I think next step today is for me to get a quote from the other vet in town and to check the PDSA to see if they have the facilities to offer it (I hate taking their help when she should've been insured).

 

I have no idea whatsoever what the next step would be after that so there's no point in me speculating. I just wanted to say though that yet again you lot have been amazing and I wouldn't know what to do without you. I feel so much like a bad owner today letting this happen and not being prepared, and I'm so scared that it's going to come to having to let her go to ensure she gets the treatment. I just don't deserve her.

[KathyM]

We've booked her in with the head vet for her X-rays on Friday. The other vets quoted a lot more, and at least she's getting the head vet and not Nazi Nora. God knows what happens after that, but I can't even think of that yet.

[celeste]

Will you stop blaming yourself !

I can't see that you've done anything to make this happen , as to her injuring a disc, well I've known a dog that bent it's head down to take a drink and BAM, one of the discs went and the dog was temporeraly paralysed, and the same thing with a cat who jumped down off a table.

for you and Dharma

[Rumpole]

kathy if the xrays come back and its something requiring surgery or expensive stuff you can ask your vet to refer you to the rspca clinic at salford who do low cost treatment

[Mrs Mop]

Kathy, When I first took Merlin to the vets when it was discovered he had a problem with his spine, the vet told me that normal xrays rarely pick up spinal problems so he bypasses them to save money and does an MRI scan instead. Gracie's cost £1,100 but Merlin's was £1,500 but he had other things in with that. Being a bigger dog the anaesthic cost more. Merlin's problem wouldn 't have shown up on xrays.

 

Joachim the consultant also said that spinal operations were usually around £2,000 for the operation and you have the nursing care on top of that but Merlin didn't go into intensive care, he was in the normal ward which is half the price.

 

Hope this helps you with your decision knowing roughly how much it cost for Merlin's operation. I also done a dairy of his operation if you would like a copy of it, it may help.

 

Merlin has since become a puppy.