Frighteneing Experience

[kev-s]

I foster for Pawz and have just rang as i did the homecheck.

This happened today and like a lot of rescues Pawz is run by volunteers so contact has been made as soon as someone could.

Fnella will get all the back up she needs.

 

Pushka did not show any problems like this.

[estweyn]

Sorry if any offence caused by my posting re dominant behaviour. Just having experienced such behaviour myself and finding the cure very simple I thought the information may be useful, sorry to disagree with you doggy experts on here but I would pose the question how many of you have actually dealt with handler aggressive dogs or even agressive dogs full stop and seen the difference it makes when the dog realises that it does not have to challenge and takes its rightful place as a good member of the family. The way I read the posting the dog appears to me to be a danger.

 

I totally agree that the rescue needs to be contacted, they surely would have information as to how the dog behaved in kennels and when exercised if at all. Pack structure is a really interesting and insightful subject and we can learn a lot by relating to how the dog behaves in a natural environment.

 

One to one with a behaviourist is good, but be sure that they know what they are dealing with, there are some who do actually specialise in dogs that have a temprement through whatever reason that is prone to aggression.

Hope you solve the problem Fenella

[Trallwm farm]

Sorry if any offence caused by my posting re dominant behaviour. Just having experienced such behaviour myself and finding the cure very simple I thought the information may be useful, sorry to disagree with you doggy experts on here but I would pose the question how many of you have actually dealt with handler aggressive dogs or even agressive dogs full stop and seen the difference it makes when the dog realises that it does not have to challenge and takes its rightful place as a good member of the family. The way I read the posting the dog appears to me to be a danger.

 

 

ME !

And aggresive horses,geese and cats everyday

 

 

I totally agree that the rescue needs to be contacted, they surely would have information as to how the dog behaved in kennels and when exercised if at all. Pack structure is a really interesting and insightful subject and we can learn a lot by relating to how the dog behaves in a natural environment.

 

Im sure once someone understands the signals going both ways things will improve

 

 

One to one with a behaviourist is good, but be sure that they know what they are dealing with, there are some who do actually specialise in dogs that have a temprement through whatever reason that is prone to aggression.

 

Absoutely

 

Hope you solve the problem Fenella

Im sure we all do.

Everyone has thier own opinion and one is no more valid than the other until such times as hindsight is available.

[redditchlady]

sorry to disagree with you doggy experts on here but I would pose the question how many of you have actually dealt with handler aggressive dogs or even agressive dogs full stop and seen the difference it makes when the dog realises that it does not have to challenge and takes its rightful place as a good member of the family. The way I read the posting the dog appears to me to be a danger.

 

 

I am sorrry but I find that post really offensive.

 

What gives you the right to judge any of us. FYI I have had GSDs (Plus other breeds)for 25 years, some have had aggression problems.

 

I still do not jump to conclusions, so that is why on my post I advised no more tuggy games and to contact the rescue concerned.

 

Kazz

[Helly]

I totally agree that the rescue needs to be contacted, they surely would have information as to how the dog behaved in kennels and when exercised if at all. Pack structure is a really interesting and insightful subject and we can learn a lot by relating to how the dog behaves in a natural environment.

 

while i find most of your post patronising, this bit really does get my back up. I own a kennels. we have both boarding dogs and a small rescue running from here. Why on earth do people still beleive the kennels must know what the dog is like. Unless they bring their dogs home and cage them in a kennel with 30 odd other dogs, how on earth can the dogs behaviour be expected to be anything remotely similar to how it was whilst at the rescue?

 

In the last month we have rehomed 3 collie types, all of which i expected to be potentially hard work once in a home environment, as they were excitable youngsters with kennel stress and suffering eternal giddyness. All 3 have turned out to be quiet sensible pets with no manic moments or problems.

 

 

Fenella, im glad to see you are determined to fix these issues and plan to stick with your dog. Id have been mortified if you had followed earlier knee jerk reaction advice and just given her back.

[Ingrid]

Sorry if any offence caused by my posting re dominant behaviour. Just having experienced such behaviour myself and finding the cure very simple I thought the information may be useful, sorry to disagree with you doggy experts on here but I would pose the question how many of you have actually dealt with handler aggressive dogs or even agressive dogs full stop and seen the difference it makes when the dog realises that it does not have to challenge and takes its rightful place as a good member of the family. The way I read the posting the dog appears to me to be a danger.

 

Me and no it didn't work, dominence and agression are two entirely different things, truly dominant alpha dogs are rarely agreessive, they don't have to be, but they also do not try to dominate humans.

 

Fenella, wait and see what the rescue have to say, and take it from there, I doubt if your girl is truly a problem, just needs some good basic training Good Luck

[Rumpole]

i agree with trallwm farm on this we take many staffies and bull breeds that due to the way they have previously been encouraged display this sort of lead behaviour a chain lead usually sorts it out.

 

dont despair and as other sensible folks have said work with the rescue and if nessesary other qualified people in order to sort out the problem this incident may have been aggression but it could also easily be that the dog was trying a little too hard to get your attention when you turned your back to ignore it, dont forget your dog has been through a number of moves in its three short years

[fenella6]

I got a phone call back from one of the behaviourists i contacted and it turns out she knows Pushka already! What a stroke of luck. She worked with her in her previous home before the owner decided to give her up. The behaviourist says the dog plays as rough as you can get, and is a lurcher/staffi cross.So it sounds like she was playing after all. She said i was doing everything right and is coming to visit next week to start work on her again. She also gave me a tip on how to control her if it happens again.She reckons the games of tag etc have very little to do with what happened,just that she loves her toys and playing.I have taken her out again -minus the son!-and she was a pleasure to walk-so am off to work feeling a lot happier!

[Wendbert]

Thats great news

[ReikiAnge]

Great news, good luck and please keep us posted

[murtle]

oooo what fab news to read now that I am back home

[summersun]

hi,

 

i just wanted to say i'm back and will read through threads but it will take me a while as your questions (which i'm more than happy to answer) are inbetween other bits.

 

thanks,

 

claire.

[summersun]

With respect Claire, you are making some quite serious accusations about a dog you have never met and had never even heard of until about an hour ago, criticising a rescue and advising a complete stranger to insist on returning their dog to rescue!

 

I have no idea of your experience in rescue or behaviour as you have only joined us very recently and you may well be a very experienced behaviourist, but most of the posts you have made so far have been recommending *another* behaviourist, so why do you feel qualified to offer internet advice on this particular dog, one you have ever met?

 

hi,

 

my personal opinion is that as the owner was injured that this *is* a serious situation. i think one thing which lets owners down is that advice on forums rarely communicates the urgency of the situation. either because those responding are not aware of the "possibles" or because they dont want to be "got at" like it appears i am being.

 

with regard to reccommending a behaviourist, i have given my advice where i believe the problem could be looked at in an "over the internet" way and reccommended a behaviourist for the more involved cases. again, personally i feel this is the responsible way to act. i am very confused as to why you think this could be a "negative point" and you also seem to suggest my advice is virutally worthless because i'm "new here".

 

..... off to find next bit

[summersun]

My thoughts exactly, which just goes to show that with these prejudices people always focus on the breed they think they know is aggressive.

 

you are extremely rude and ill informed. i am well aware the dog is a CROSS and never said it was a full RR at any time. simply sweeping aside the more "unacceptable" parts of a breeds makeup makes you prejudiced.

 

also, this is most likely to be an issue with the dog itself rather than something wholly based around your son.

[ReikiAnge]

hi,

 

my personal opinion is that as the owner was injured that this *is* a serious situation. i think one thing which lets owners down is that advice on forums rarely communicates the urgency of the situation. either because those responding are not aware of the "possibles" or because they dont want to be "got at" like it appears i am being.

 

with regard to reccommending a behaviourist, i have given my advice where i believe the problem could be looked at in an "over the internet" way and reccommended a behaviourist for the more involved cases. again, personally i feel this is the responsible way to act. i am very confused as to why you think this could be a "negative point" and you also seem to suggest my advice is virutally worthless because i'm "new here".

 

..... off to find next bit

 

I didn't say it wasn't a serious situation - having not met the owner or dog and not being a behaviourist myself, I don't feel qualified to make that assumption. I said you were making serious accusations about a dog you had never met.

 

I thought the advice given by most of the people on here - which was to contact the rescue, have the dog checked over by a vet and have the dog seen by a qualified behaviourist who could see the dog in person - was responsible and was acknowleding the possible seriousness of the situation.

 

I have not suggested your advice is worthless because you are new, but you don't appear to be reading what people are actually saying.

 

I said: "I have no idea of your experience in rescue or behaviour as you have only joined us very recently" - which is true isn't it? You have only joined us recently and I know nothing about you or your experience in rescue or behaviour other than what you have posted on this thread and the various threads you posted on recommending another behaviourist.