zico's mum Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Dog Control Bill It was presented to Lords last week apparently.Just seen this elsewhere and I am appalled by this Bill.There is so much in there that is open to interpretation - obviously being a Terrier owner I am deeply concerned at this: No person shall... e) keep a dog that has attacked a person or another animal If that includes rabbits and rats then I would not be allowed to keep my dogs if I'm reading this right.If this goes ahead I can honestly see the day coming when all dogs will need to be kept on lead in public - and I will never have another dog if that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudi Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 That is worrying. Does that mean a dog could be removed from their owner over a tussle in the local park that doesn't even draw blood - it still could be classed as an attack. A huge percentage of dogs in the UK would have to be removed from their owners. Whilst it's not acceptable for dogs to be allowed to attack other dogs and animals, it does of course happen and it doesn't make a dog 'aggressive'. Many dogs would fight with another dog and it's a pretty normal, if undesireable, part of their repetoire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddyboy Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 (edited) I've only had a quick glance at it - enough to tell me I need to make time to read it properly.... am I imagining it or does it state that if "an officer" THINKS a dog may have a fight even if there is no evidence of fighting, temperament or anything to base the idea on, then action can be taken (sorry - I know this is currently what "type" dogs are up against and I don;t mean to dismiss that problem but this seems to be any dog). Edited December 15, 2008 by buddyboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanrossscot Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Good grief!!!!! That is NOT good! No mention of an officer being trained to understand dog behaviour or anything!!!! What if your local bobbie hates a particular breed? As for the 'attack/bitten' another animal?! Cats had better worry then in case they add them for catching birds etc Ridiculous analogy? maybe not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zico's mum Posted December 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 (edited) That's how I read it too - I honestly do think this is dreadfully worded and gives far too much power to an individual Police Officer. Missed the quote - this was to buddyboy Edited December 15, 2008 by zico's mum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReikiAnge Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 That sounds very scary indeed. What about dogs who are dog aggressive but kept under control? I was going to say I hope the police have better things to do than go around taking pet dogs from responsible owners but sadly we know that already happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmagic Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 (4) For the purposes of this Act a dog shall be regarded as having been in an attack if it has bitten, mauled or injured a person or another animal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddyboy Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 (edited) All it needs is for "An Officer" to see my 2 thugs doing their Sumo on the beach - lots of noise, snarling and barging but bestest friends brothers letting off steam really. And yet the same person could see little old Toastie charging after a husky or a collie and think "how sweet" while failing to realise that he for some reason hates them with a vengance and has been known to come away with a tuft of hair in his gummy mouth. Edited December 15, 2008 by buddyboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmagic Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 But also ( my bold lettering) 6 Repeals The following Acts are repealed— (a) the Dogs Act 1871 (c. 56); (b) the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991 (c. 65); 20 © the Dangerous Dogs (Amendment) Act 1997 (c. 53). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmagic Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 (edited) http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/l...9.i-i.html#j001 6 Repeals The following Acts are repealed— (a) the Dogs Act 1871 (c. 56); (b) the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991 (c. 65); 20 © the Dangerous Dogs (Amendment) Act 1997 (c. 53). ( my bold lettering) Edited December 15, 2008 by blackmagic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safneo Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Good grief!!!!! That is NOT good! No mention of an officer being trained to understand dog behaviour or anything!!!! What if your local bobbie hates a particular breed? Or just hates dogs in general? Better keep Neo indoors then as he is likely to 'shout' at anyone that gets to close and it wont matter that he is on lead and muzzled! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReikiAnge Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 (4) For the purposes of this Act a dog shall be regarded as having been in an attack if it has bitten, mauled or injured a person or another animal. God if this goes through they are going to have a lot of blood on their hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReikiAnge Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Was about to ask the same of DNB The above bit sounds good, other bits sound extremely worrying! Thread on the Dog Control Bill in general is here: http://www.therefuge.org.uk/forums/index.p...mp;#entry789339 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khanu Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Well that's my four screwed then as they have all at some point or another bitten another dog or person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudi Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 It only applies (at the moment) to England and Wales. Scotland seems to be more sensible and if this comes in, I shall seriously consider giving in to a lifelong dream to move up there. Koda caught and killed a myxi rabbit at the weekend, it was so quick I didn't have time to stop him and I doubt he'd have caught the rabbit had it not been blind, I found it upsetting but I don't for a minute think he's out of control or aggressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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