lazydaisy Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 I went out tonight for the first time in a couple of months. Me and my friend ended up in a bar/club. I was stunned by what a group of pretty, young women were wearing - stockings, basques, corsets, vv high heels, and garters. There was lots of variety between each girl. To top it off they were dancing in a very suggestive way together. (ie as if they were pole dancing) I was frankly appauled by the way they were dressed - as someone who considers themselves a feminist, I was vv surprised by what they were wearing and the fact that they seemed surprised by the number of men "hitting on them". Why wear such items out for a night? I might seem v old and prudish, I dont think I am . I was sad that it seems ok to wear this stuff (giving men a cheap thrill), because it is so demening to women. What happened to women valuing themselves and not portraying themselves as sex symbols?????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranirottie Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 I consider myself as fairly liberal and feminist and I am of the strong opinion that people should be allowed to wear what they want to but they can hardly blame men for "hitting on them" if they are dressed like that. Most men seem to have very little control once they have downed enough pints to convince them that they are a much admired sex god. To deliberately dress like that is openly inviting male attention.That does not however,take away the women's rights to rebuff the attention but it is a fine line I feel. I hope you enjoyed your night out Anne.x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kats n greys Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 I've never understood why "girl power" (thanks Spice Girls) gave girls the right to wear tight, short, low-cut etc etc clothes, can't ever remember men objecting to it (except maybe a dad with "his" daughters). Why it became ok for young girls to wear/have "Playboy" clothing/toys- Also never understood the "ladette" culture maybe because I've always disliked the "lad" culture, why do we have to emulate the worst behaviour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greytgirl Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Not that Im being thick or owt... but were they not purposely dressed like that? ie a hen do ? or something? girls certainly wear short skirts etc round the town I would go out but basques and stockings? strange attire..its so sad that young girls, or ANY feel the need to hardly wear a stictch to feel attractive isnt it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boosboss Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Have I just been transported back to the 1960s? Ooh those skirts are far too short! I blame Mary Quant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacobean Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Yes but you only saw legs in those days Joe. People are wandering around in their underwear these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittycat Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Maybe they just wanted to be different and stand out I can't see a problem to be honest, I went out in a pair of cow patch pjs the other week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krusewalker Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Maybe they just wanted to be different and stand out then why all look the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittycat Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 then why all look the same? As a group, we've all gone out before in the same clothes for a laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyMalc Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 I consider myself as fairly liberal and feminist and I am of the strong opinion that people should be allowed to wear what they want to but they can hardly blame men for "hitting on them" if they are dressed like that. Most men seem to have very little control once they have downed enough pints to convince them that they are a much admired sex god. To deliberately dress like that is openly inviting male attention.That does not however,take away the women's rights to rebuff the attention but it is a fine line I feel.I hope you enjoyed your night out Anne.x However people are dressed, that is their choice and no matter how someone's dressed, it does not give anyone the right to "hit on them" if that's not what they want; if they get "hit on" and the second a girl/woman lets a guy know that they are not the "admired sex god" they are looking for then it should be hands off and back off, and if they don't then I would certainly blame the guy if anything unpleasant was to come of it. I've been "hit on" because I used to shave my head - it's my business and mine alone what I do with my hair (or lack thereof ). I couldn't dance 'pole dancing stylee' if I wanted to, but when I'm on the dance floor and there is some proper good tunes on, I just dance the way I feel like dancing - and again as long as I don't smack anyone in the head or trot on their toes it's nobody's business but mine what I'm doing there. I quite like watching people who can 'really dance', suggestive or not, just because I love dance music and watching how people express themselves. That said, I went out too last night (it does happen once in a blue moon!) and I saw exactly the same kind of dress (i.e. next to nothing) worn by girls/women much younger than me. Basically I wouldn't want to be seen dead in some of the stuff they were wearing, but I can only assume that they would not be persuaded to go out the door wearing the kind of jeans and black shirt I was wearing - nevermind the no make-up at all! As for the "feminism" thing: surely the point of feminism was/is that women can wear what they want, and if that is suggestive little numbers then they should be able to, without getting judged by neither men nor women? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safneo Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 At least they had corsets on. I remember girls going out in their bras. I think basques are 'in fashion' at the moment so a lot more girls will be wearing them. Whats wrong in wearing something (better than nothing) that makes you feel good about yourself. I mean what person doesnt want to feel sexy?? That is the kind of thing I would probably have worn in my younger (and slimmer) days. Having said that I wouldn't let my daughter buy one a few weeks ago but then she is only 15 And when you see the 'porn' that is music videos nowadays is it any wonder girls dress like that now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheryl33 Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 I used to work as a pole dancer a few years ago so I cant comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkle Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 I've gone out wearing a corset several times ... but I've worn them with jeans as I believe in one or t'other - as in boobs or legs out not both at the same time - and I think men will hit on you whatever you wear, one particularly cold night I was out in baggy jeans and an ex's HUGE jumper, looked like poo but poor drunken misguided fools still tried it on ... bless them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycas Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Yeah, pissed people will try whatever, I've never forgotten the evening I was walking back from a day's conservation volunteering, muddy, scratched, wearing my oldest jeans and a torn jacket, and someone thought I was a streetwalker. I was less offended, more amazed by the sheer effectiveness of their beer goggles... Anyway, when is this 'nowadays'. I'm sure there was a fad for underwear as outerwear in the early 90's, am I wrong..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslass Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 There's a huge difference between the aspirations of so-called "girl power" and true feminism, of course - they have nothing in common. The old 60s feminists (and all those who went before, of course) didn't intend gender equality to result merely in the freedom to wear our underwear in the street, fall out of pubs, and vomit on pavements. If that's the best we can do in matching the achievements of our male peers, we've failed - and how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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