Pingu Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Just got a reply off him.... Dear Ms Davies, Personally, I never thought that the dog amnesty was a good idea. That said, I think that it is only fair that i point out to you that I do not agree with your analysis. I am afraid that the breed itself in some dogs means that they are undesirable totally. Some breeds only exist as killers. Yours sincerely, Stephen Hesford MP I had told him that I think, that if you treat a dog with love and training you will get a loyal and loving pet, That is all I have done with Maddie, and she has up to now turned out well, I know she will always be a good girlie!! I also said that if you put fear into a dog and treat it badly then you are going to get a dog that's going to snap one day. Am I wrong in saying that? hes an arse isint he point him to the KC, Dogst trust and RSPCA statements.. and tell him to stop putting stupid leaflets through my door too.. my bin is nearly full will be taking some dnb leaflets to training tomorrow btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReikiAnge Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 No your not wrong. "mp" doesnt mean "clever" Amanda, the KC have made a fresh statement today - link - and there are lots of statements on the DNB site from the KC, Dogs Trust, Blue Cross, NDWA and various behaviourists/trainers. They can't all be wrong surely? Well done for trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greys mum Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 I had a very dodgy reply from my MP after an age of waiting the other day. I sometimes think it's scary that these are the poeple that run our country... Your MP sounds just like mine!! Career people without a care in their plastic little worlds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merledogs Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 (edited) Am lighting a candle tonight and every night until the amnesty is over for those poor dogs who will lose their lives because most people are still clueless about what makes dogs tick. We create breeds and and then we destroy them - maybe some people think that makes them God? Edited February 7, 2007 by madmerle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loobie Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 My sons are going to school wearing black arm bands today and taking leaflets about the amnesty and bsl with them - they know they are far away but want to raise as much awareness as they can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmad Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Still not clear to me about this news, does it mean pit bulls only? what about Staffies, staffie x , dobbies? Do you need to register dogs? If you get a dog from a rescue or private and there are no papers with it? can somebody explain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacobean Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 It is illegal dogs only including pit bulls. None of the other breeds you mention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReikiAnge Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 It is illegal dogs only, the four types banned under the DDA: Pit Bull type Dogo Argentino Japenese Tosa Fila Braziliero But take a look at the "characteristics of an illegal dog" page from Merseyside Police - link and think how many non-types this could easily cover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathyM Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Just got a reply off him.... Dear Ms Davies, Personally, I never thought that the dog amnesty was a good idea. That said, I think that it is only fair that i point out to you that I do not agree with your analysis. I am afraid that the breed itself in some dogs means that they are undesirable totally. Some breeds only exist as killers. Yours sincerely, Stephen Hesford MP I had told him that I think, that if you treat a dog with love and training you will get a loyal and loving pet, That is all I have done with Maddie, and she has up to now turned out well, I know she will always be a good girlie!! I also said that if you put fear into a dog and treat it badly then you are going to get a dog that's going to snap one day. Am I wrong in saying that? You see, this does my bloody head in. MPs are NOT put in place to promote their views, but to take the views of their constituents on board and promote them. I think it's disgusting that he's completely disregarded your views like that in favour of his own ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amanda72 Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Here is the next... Sorry if this makes you angry... On what grounds do you base your statement? Are you an owner of the “type†of breeds involved? What experience do you have? Pit Bulls live as family pets in USA and can you expand on “some breeds only exist as killersâ€. Which breeds in particular? Regards Amanda Davies Dear Ms. Davies, Research and experience demonstrates what I say. You are of course entiled to disagree, and, from what your initial email said, I knew that you would do so. As to the USA ., there are a number of facets of that society which give cause for concern. In particular the appalling gun culture which is prevalent, and in support of which the gun lobby, rather implausibly, use the same argument as you do about dogs when they say that there is no such thing as a bad gun, only bad people using them. Fortunately, we live inthe UK and not the USA. Yours sincerely, Stephen Hesford MP I am pretty pi***d off with this, he hasn't really answered my questions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobs mum Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 It is illegal dogs only, the four types banned under the DDA: Pit Bull type Dogo Argentino Japenese Tosa Fila Braziliero But take a look at the "characteristics of an illegal dog" page from Merseyside Police - link and think how many non-types this could easily cover this is exactly why my two have only been out a couple of times since all this started Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix21 Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Here is the next... Sorry if this makes you angry... On what grounds do you base your statement? Are you an owner of the “type†of breeds involved? What experience do you have? Pit Bulls live as family pets in USA and can you expand on “some breeds only exist as killersâ€. Which breeds in particular? Regards Amanda Davies Dear Ms. Davies, Research and experience demonstrates what I say. You are of course entiled to disagree, and, from what your initial email said, I knew that you would do so. As to the USA ., there are a number of facets of that society which give cause for concern. In particular the appalling gun culture which is prevalent, and in support of which the gun lobby, rather implausibly, use the same argument as you do about dogs when they say that there is no such thing as a bad gun, only bad people using them. Fortunately, we live inthe UK and not the USA. Yours sincerely, Stephen Hesford MP I am pretty pi***d off with this, he hasn't really answered my questions... He seems like a complete w**ker and i doubt anything you say would change his mind. A guy at work has been constantly asking me today when im handing phoenix in......oh so funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Here is the next... Sorry if this makes you angry... On what grounds do you base your statement? Are you an owner of the "type" of breeds involved? What experience do you have? Pit Bulls live as family pets in USA and can you expand on "some breeds only exist as killers". Which breeds in particular? Regards Amanda Davies Dear Ms. Davies, Research and experience demonstrates what I say. You are of course entiled to disagree, and, from what your initial email said, I knew that you would do so. As to the USA ., there are a number of facets of that society which give cause for concern. In particular the appalling gun culture which is prevalent, and in support of which the gun lobby, rather implausibly, use the same argument as you do about dogs when they say that there is no such thing as a bad gun, only bad people using them. Fortunately, we live inthe UK and not the USA. Yours sincerely, Stephen Hesford MP I am pretty pi***d off with this, he hasn't really answered my questions... ask him for copies of the research he has referred to I have looked HARD and I am buggered if i can find any data. can both send if you like as hes our MP too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizeeeH Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 he wants burning at the stake like the warlock he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amanda72 Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 ask him for copies of the research he has referred to I have looked HARD and I am buggered if i can find any data. can both send if you like as hes our MP too. If you want to, I sent the reply to bobbie and said I was pretty angry, and said I may go to one of his surgerys, and have it out with him.... then realised as I had sent it , I had actually sent it to him!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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