Pingu Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 I know there is a facebook group and some anectdotal evidence that these products are harmful to pets but does anyone know of any factual evidence of the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happylittlegreensquirrel Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Are you specially referring to Bob Martin Products Rick ? or spot on's in general my personal experience with Bob Martins products are they are not strong enough to work ( well not on Sri Lankan Street dogs ) , Dogstar had some donated and we found they did not do the job and we had to retreat ( the following month ) with Drontal and Frontline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackmagic Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Not for Bob Martins but one of the people who competes in obedience had a dog who started taking fits after treatment with Frontline. This was reported by the vet and the makers did make a payment towards the vet treatment. The dog continued to take fits for a year afterwards, but has been clear for several months now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu Posted May 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 aye meant bob martin products in particular and from chatting to vets today it would appear that not only are they pooh but have a bit of a reputation for being very bad for cats in particular front-line is aparantly the safest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houndwoman Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 We had a dog that collapsed half an hour after Frontline application-she died a few months later with a massive tumour in her neck and on her spleen I always try and steer clear now of any chemical applications if possible. I have never used Bob Martins products so can't say a lot about them but I have been told that they aren't very effective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 (edited) I believe it may be Bob Martin spot on for dogs being used on cats that would be a problem Pingu - it apparently contains a significant degree of permethrin which in some doses is fatally toxic to a cat Bob Martins own website specifically warns you not to use this product on a cat as it is "extremely poisonous" to them http://www.bobmartin.co.uk/Fleas1.asp This Daily Telegraph page commented on the possible problem nearly two years ago & obviously the stuff is still on sale http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/petsheal...t-subjects.html Also see http://www.vmd.gov.uk/General/Adverse/current.htm for other products this may apply to Edited May 12, 2009 by Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 For treatment of Permethrin Poisoning in Cats reasons why it happens etc Permethrin Poisoning in Cats see http://www.vetstoria.com/index.php?f=videos&id=364 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooandboo Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 I won't use any such flea treatments for dogs or cats. Jimmycat died of bladder cancer which has been linked to flea collars - she always wore one & Ravencat was ill for a week after his last Frontline treatment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flukespad Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 I don't ike these treaments but sadly there are times where we all have to use them.I try and treat as naturally as possible. This is not good news and so many of us are ignorant to the facts, we buy these products as being safe and the correct product to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil_angel Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 I used to use Bob Martin spot on for Rudy and never had any problems with it. I dont use it for Louie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycas Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Many years ago (probably about 25, actually!) we tried Bob Martin spot on flea killers for our cats, but found they were ineffective (though I don't remember seeing any bad reaction from our cats or the dogs). Since then I've always used flea treatments from the vet, mostly Frontline, because they work. We do have one cat whose skin seems to be sensitive to Frontline : unfortunately he's sensitive to fleas as well, so he gets, ISTR Advantage instead. That also works and he doesn't seem to react as badly to that. Never tried Bob Martin again, but am assuming the formulation has not changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 It may well be that the formulation has not changed but the problem is possibly that some people aren't reading the packets. Bob Martin do make a product for cats that doesn't contain permethin & they claim to be safe (why if it kills fleas they can't make this one product for both cats & dogs I'm not sure) but as I said they themselves specifically tell you not to use the dog product on cats due to it's toxicity to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EAD Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Dont use Bob Martin products but do use Frontline on Lily for her flea allergies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one.eyed.dog Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 I use frontline on Lottie and have not had any problems but, I hate using it. I am always terrifed something will happen to her. If there was something natural I would use that instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heva Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 found bob martin to not really work and come across more cats and dog who had reaction to them compared to frontline. often allergic skin reaction. It is cheaper by miles and easily available form supermarkets..... but you get what you pay for i think! Never had proble with frontline and we used it on every dog who came into kenenls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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