kats n greys Posted April 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Joanna Lumley has set up a petition here.At posting 154544 agree. Both signed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesB Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 I've signed up too. I hope the decision can be overturned, I feel ashamed of this Government Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggy.lover Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Our government should hang its head in shame! We let folk in to our country to live who go on to damn everything about our country and burn our national flag in public yet these men and their families who are willing to put their lives in the firing line for our Queen and country are not allowed to stay. Disgraceful! Absolutely agree. I had the honour of serving for a short time on the same barracks as a Gurkha Regiment and met several of them, the most fiervely loyal people I have ever met and I'm ashamed to call myself British when the British Government treat them so despicably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madison Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Have signed the petition. Am disgusted that these people who are willing to sacrifice their lives for this country are denied the right to live here yet we are quite happy to allow others in who who come purely for the benefits they will receive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReikiAnge Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Joanna Lumley has set up a petition here.At posting 154544 agree. Thanks for that, have signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrier Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Often in a controversial debate, there are usually two sides putting forward opposing views. Here, it seems that there is only one - unanimous - view. Our government didn't make a controversial decision - they made a bad one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranirottie Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 I think it is appalling that we offer help,homes,money etc to every tom,dick or harry that claims it breaches their human rights to be refused entry to our country and yet we cannot extend the same offer to people who fought for this country so belong here! This government is so worried about human rights that it has gone right down the wrong road for this country. I have joined,with great pleasure! x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrier Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 On a more positive note... http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090429/tuk-br...te-dba1618.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReikiAnge Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 Was just going to post similar, sounds like very positive news http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8023882.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyMalc Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 WOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: Brown defeated over Gurkha rules Joanna Lumley, David Cameron and Nick Clegg react to the vote Gordon Brown's government has suffered a shock defeat in the Commons on its policy of restricting the right of many former Gurkhas to settle in the UK. MPs voted by 267 to 246 for a Lib Dem motion offering all Gurkhas equal right of residence, with the Tories and 27 Labour rebels backing it. Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg called the government's position "shameful". Immigration minister Phil Woolas told MPs new proposals would be published before Parliament's summer recess. In a statement, he said: "This government respects the will of the House of Commons." He added that all outstanding applications for UK residence by Gurkhas would be dealt with by the end of May. Mr Brown's first significant defeat as prime minister came despite last-minute concessions being offered to rebel Labour MPs. 'Immense victory' The Commons vote is not binding, but it represents an embarrassment for the government. It comes at a time when Mr Brown is facing criticism over other issues, including his reform plans for MPs' expenses, which will also go to a vote on Thursday. It is the biggest Commons victory achieved by the Liberal Democrats since their formation two decades ago, and is the first time a government has lost an opposition day debate since James Callaghan in January 1978. Gary O'Donoghue The real worry for Gordon Brown and his whips is that this could merely be the warm-up for Thursday's vote on expenses BBC's Gary O'Donoghue Defeat spells trouble for Brown In quotes: Reaction to vote In full: The Labour rebels There were shouts of "resign" as the numbers were announced. The Lib Dems said 28 Labour MPs had voted for their motion - although that is thought to include one Labour MP who voted both for and against the motion. After the vote Mr Clegg and Mr Cameron joined actress Joanna Lumley, who has been campaigning on the issue, and Gurkhas outside Parliament. Mr Clegg said: "This is an immense victory on a series of fronts: for the rights of Gurkhas who have been waiting so long for justice, a victory for Parliament, a victory for decency." He added that it was "the kind of thing people want this country to do". Uncomfortable episode Mr Cameron said it was "embarrassing" for the prime minister because his efforts to strike a "shoddy deal" with Labour rebels had failed. He added: "Today is a historic day where Parliament took the right decision. The government have got to come back with immediate proposals so that the Gurkhas can have an answer." MPs reject Brown's Ghurka policy Among Labour MPs voting for the Liberal Democrat motion were home affairs committee chairman Keith Vaz, ministerial aide Stephen Pound and former cabinet minister Andrew Smith. Mr Pound said he had resigned as a parliamentary private secretary to vote against the government. Labour MP Martin Salter, chairman of the Parliamentary group on Gurkhas' rights, abstained. He told the BBC he refused to support the government but wanted to acknowledge the concessions made. 'Major changes' He added: "It is the amount of abstainers that did it. Comparatively few Labour MPs actually voted for the Lib Dem motion but an awful lot of people sat on their hands as a way of showing their determination to finish this issue." Some 36,000 former Gurkhas have been denied UK residency because they served in the British army before 1997. Ministers had introduced new rules allowing more soldiers to settle here based on long service, medals received, and those injured in battle. David Cameron, Joanna Lumley and Nick Clegg surronded by campaigners Mr Cameron and Mr Clegg said the policy should be changed quickly The Home Office said that new rules would allow about 4,300 more to settle, but the Gurkha Justice Campaign said it would be just 100. Defending the policy at prime minister's questions earlier, Gordon Brown said: "Since 1997 we have taken the first action to give justice to the Gurkhas. "During that period of time the first ever Gurkhas to have rights of settlement in Britain has been agreed and 6,000 have now applied successfully and come into the country." He said they had created equal pay and pensions for the Gurkhas and doubled the pensions of people staying in Nepal. But he said: "We have got to balance our responsibilities to those who have served our country with the finance that we need to be able to meet these obligations - and not base our offer on money we cannot afford." Ms Lumley said the campaigners were "elated" as they had expected to lose the vote. "When it came through we saw it on the screen and I can't tell you the sense of elation," she said. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8023882.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rotties Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Is there somewhere we can see who voted in support of Nick Cleggs motion? I along with some other wrote to our mp asking him to support this motion even though he is a labour mp, if he did vote in support I would like to write to thank him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rotties Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Found it, find out how your M.P. voted.... http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/ Guess as he voted AGAINST Nick Cleggs motion he will not be getting my vote in the next election!! :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacobean Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 My MP voted no as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murtle Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Marvellous mine was bl00dy absent...fabulous, I didn't vote for him last time, I won't be voting for him next time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReikiAnge Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Pleased to see mine voted yes, I thought he would on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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