KathyM

Morning chapettes! Thank you very much for your advice all of you, you've confirmed I wasn't being over protective mum and I've booked her in to see the docs this morning. She has not spotted at all since she wiped yesterday morning, so I think that might be coincidental and unrelated? Maybe timing just brought both issues on at the same time, doesn't sound too insane. She doesn't have any irritation or graze down below (good thinking though!), the pain is apparently an aching "inside" pain in her privates themselves after she wees. She says it isn't burning or stinging, which is what threw me off with the location of the pain (I would've expected a wee infection ache to be a bit higher up, and lower pain to be stinging, but we're all different lol). I made her drink loads before bed and while the pain is still there this morning she says it's not as bad as yesterday, but lasts longer after the wee. She didn't want to make a fuss yesterday because she didn't want to let the basketball team down today. She now has confirmation from the school that they will find someone to take her place (the team only has three players even with her so I'm pretty sure they're screwed with or without her lol). Anyway, thank you all so much for the advice, I think nature has slung two things at us at once and thankfully one has decided to go on hold for a little while!

Hi you lot Can't believe I'm asking advice on this, Connie would kill me but I need to make sure I get this right as you only get one chance as a mother! Connie turned 10 in January. She has started growing up in the form of hair, boobies, spots and temper, earlier than expected but all fairly smooth so far - she's got far more confidence than I had, so that's great. This morning she came to me saying it hurt when she wees and she had some blood come out of her vagina (she has a "kit" ready, so was fairly prepared). She was absolutely certain the blood came from her vagina but it wasn't much. She said it hurt just after a wee, an ache in her privates, not in her tummy, which said to me maybe she was wrong and this is a wee infection. She went out with her cousins earlier to watch a race come along the end of the road, and when she came home she complained it had hurt to sit on the stone wall. She has been very brave and grown up and let me check "down below" (she used to get thrush a lot as a young child - seriously someone should delete this thread when it's over as the archive could mortify her as an adult lol). There isn't anything going on at the minute. She is not bleeding tonight, but she is absolutely certain it came from her vagina and I believe her from our chat (on a side note how cool is it that she came to us with no embarrassment AT all!). I need to get this right. She has swimming in the morning and a basket ball game tomorrow evening. My gut instinct is to keep her off tomorrow and take her to the docs to get a wee sample done, but part of me says that will crucify her if it's me not recognising a weird first period. Even if I don't go to the docs (eg. if it becomes very apparent it is her first period) I think her having the day off is appropriate as the boys won't be about (she has two older nosey bros) and we get to make sure she's okay emotionally too. I dunno about you lot but I remember my first like it was yesterday and it means a lot to me to get this right for her. Just wanted to check with you whether I'm doing things right. She has not bled since this morning which makes me think it's not a period, but she is adamant it wasn't in her wee/coming from that area. However, the pain does seem to only occur after a wee. Do I take her to the docs in the morning and risk embarrassing her? She would absolutely kill me for posting this so if any of you ever meet her don't bloody mention it!!

Am I the only one that finds it quite sad that he literally says he has given up every part of Sri Lankan culture to be British? I think us Brits are very good at moaning about people not making the effort to speak fluent English here, yet are notorious world-wide for being ignorant idiots abroad and expecting every other country to speak fluent English there too (and provide full English breakfasts which I always find so embarrassing about being a Brit abroad). Lots of ex-pats abroad don't speak more than two or three words of the language of the countries they live in and completely rely on making little divided ex-pat subcultures with their own little English shops and complaints about the country they're living in not being British enough. My parents lived in France for years after I left home (and currently spend their time between Spain and England), and were approached by A Place in the Sun to take part in an episode. When they were told they had to show how they stick with other English people in their area and asked to play down how integrated they were in French life (they wanted to film a "do" at my mum and dad's house but didn't want any French people there, just ex-pats), they refused to continue participating. Saying all that, I don't think speaking the language well is the main issue. My mum speaks very little French - my Dad learned a lot over the years before they went out there and had some lessons too just before they left. My mum was still very much part of the community where they were. It wasn't about the language, it was about the effort. I don't have a problem with people coming here who can't speak English. A lot of older people find it much harder to pick up a language and it can be very isolating if even the local post office won't serve you when you can't speak English, I find it especially sad that the person who won't serve them has been through the trauma of moving to a whole new country himself. I do have a problem with anyone who is in this country and holds bad feeling against us as a whole, but I think they're few and far between compared to our embarrassing British tourists and ex-pats!

I just heard Jade passed away.

Baz teases me similarly, he says I want Derek's love child. I just wretched a little typing that. You and him are both cruel.

I'm so sorry.

D'you know, I only replied to this thread because I saw about 5 or 6 people in the online list looking at it, so I assumed it was current! How very weird!

Tell Grandma Squiggs that I saw him live and he was proven to be a complete fraud by some of the crowd, it was very pleasing. You don't need psychic powers to know he's a liar, a fake and neon orange.

I read that this morning, however in other reports they're saying the woman didn't confront her at all and wasn't brandishing the hammer, she had it in her pocket. She was apparently praying at her bedside. Of course the tabloids have changed "praying" to "chanting" to make it sound Satanic. Sounds like someone mentally ill, especially considering no charges were brought. Edit: the dunno/shruggy smiley isn't here how long have I been gone?!?!) so I edited out the failed ":dunno:" lol.

This can be locked now! Phew!

Disgraceful treatment However, on the subject of numbers of convictions, I think it needs to be viewed in context. According to the BCS, only 2% of all crimes committed result in a conviction. Yes things need to change, but it's a huge problem for all crimes, not just rape. It's not good enough for any victim of crime.

I never liked Jade before, was never a BB fan, was embarrassed by her comments about Shilpa (although the racism issue was completely overplayed). I have to say that since finding out about her cancer, she's gone up massively in my estimation. Was that because she's developed taste and tact? Nope. It's because she doesn't pretend to be anything she's not and she's absolutely set on providing better for her kids. She is also still putting on a brave face for her family and for the public at a time when most of us would be hiding and waiting for the inevitable. No I don't think she's perfect, but I don't think that makes her deserve the suffering or her death any more than someone "nice" who has the same disease. I also don't think she should have to give money to cancer charities, she's providing for her kids just like we all want to, and I know I'd want every penny to go to my kids if I was feeling that guilt of leaving them without a mum (not that anyone should feel that, but I imagine it's inevitable for most mums in that situation). I find it really sad to read some of the comments on here about Jade being "fat" and "gobby" etc etc, but that says more about those commenting than her. I think it's sad in this day and age that anyone can take pot-shots at a dying woman to look clever on a forum. God forbid you're ever in the same situation and have people say about you "Couldn't care less, they were gobby, ugly and horrible". My heart goes out to her and her kids, as it would to anyone I saw in her or similar situation. On a side note, Jane Tomlinson's fund has reached the £2million mark, and they're aiming for £5 million. She was not a star, nor was she "gobby", and she got (quite rightly) a lot of media attention, and attention from the government. It's not just celebrities that get some limelight in their time of need, and while not everyone will get it, any positive outcome from those who do is as much a step forward for them as the person in the news.

God how many times do we have to hear the recurring myth of the "hypoallergenic" dog - there's no such bloomin' thing. I do think it's great they want a rescue, of course rescue vs. breeder and the breed is up to them really and they've noone to answer to as long as they're happy and the dog is. Just wish we didn't have to hear this "hypoallergenic" rubbish, how many dogs have ended up in rescue because they were sold as allergy safe.....

Any news?

Not one enquiry never mind solid offer, I'm really disappointed. I think these will be the last fosters here to be honest.

She is lovely! I do hope the vet is wrong and she recovers quickly.

Are these dogs sorted now?

We can overnight the dalmation here if necessary, can't offer more than that and don't have transport for him either way. Not much of an offer (I wish I could offer more) but it's there.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yo...ire/7894340.stm

I'm so sorry

Thanks Wendy, yeah, saw it after I posted the above but was wondering if there was info on gender/vaccs/neutering. I know there's not likely to be much more. Feel useless as we can't really do anything even with that info, but it might help someone else decide?

Do you have any more information on them?

Come back because I wanted to say I didn't mean to offend and maybe I'm feeling a bit strongly on this one to post....

Yes we all make mistakes, and if they result in the death of a child they need to be "paid" for. I dont think anyone really thinks leaving a baby precariously placed on a high surface they can easily roll off is acceptable for anything other than a hovered over emergency nappy change, so if the gran fell asleep by accident with a baby in that position then yes I feel it equates to drunk driving.

Drunk drivers kill people by "mistake" every day. Lack of intent to kill/injure/neglect doesn't absolve them of responsibility for their actions. The grandmother should be prosecuted, if she isn't it basically okays everything she did wrong, and leaves the blame squarely on the dogs.