KathyM

Not as much as it went through her My mum's missing the end of her finger - her nail curls over the end

Theyve charged a local man with the murder of Mahmood Ahmed, the taxi driver that was found dead near us last week. He had 6 kids, including a 2 week old daughter.

Need rabbit peeps advice urgently - see other animals board

She's great thanks! Starting to put her weight back on now, so she doesn't look as skinny as she did after her illness. You wouldn't know she'd been ill now.

Connie learnt to ride a "proper" bike today They grow up so fast. Dan and Chris are yet to take the plunge though To Paul and his family, and to you too

OK so I need more coffee. I'm getting riled over a thread about docking on a bloody FISH board.

You know, I didn't even notice until you just posted!

Thanks. Yeah I had the nuchal transluscency as part of a trial, and that was part of my 12 or 13 week scan if I remember rightly but like I said it was a trial so I didn't know if that was the "norm". When I had Connie the amniocentesis or the other test I can't remember the name of, was done at 20 weeks because of the risk of miscarriage (I assume it's safer the later on you are, but dunno).

I don't know if things have changed since I had Connie, but aren't some of the important tests only available after a certain gestation? I thought the amnios were done at about 20 weeks, but it might have changed.

24 weeks is the point at which a foetus becomes "viable" as I said. Being more likely to survive than not is saying that a baby has a better than 50:50 chance of survival, that's not a "good" chance in my books. My son was born at 36 weeks and 5 days, that's 3 months after the above "viable" stage, and was classed as "premature", had a collapsed lung, hole in the heart (very common in prems) and RDS and was in special care for some time. He also had to have light therapy for jaundice, and another 2 weeks in hospital for premature related illness soon after he came home when he nearly died. He couldn't even suck and had to be tubefed. He has had long term blood sugar disorder that has nearly killed him on numerous occasions. He is dyslexic and under observation/assessment for ADSs, most likely the professionals believe because of oxygen starvation at birth. I don't think anyone can say that just because a baby is possibly able to survive at 24 weeks means that it has a good chance. It has a good chance of brain trauma from lack of oxygen, liver failure, stroke and just about every other ailment linked to being premature, and then as an older child, a high chance of autistic spectrum disorders, ADHD, dyslexia, etc etc etc. Yes a baby born at 24 weeks are likely to survive physically. And then they're likely to go on to suffer long term physical and educational problems. I know that noone's saying these baies would be born at 24 weeks - they'd most likely and certainly nearly all go on to full term and be born "normally" with few complications. But if the guidelines are going to go on how young a foetus can survive, then surely all this plays a part in that decision? It's certainly not natural for babies to survive that are born at that "cut off" point. God I've waffled! sorry

I go against the majority, because I think 24 weeks is okay. It's always going to be something that gets argued over, but 24 weeks is the generally accepted "line" between a baby making it or not making it (I know there are exceptions, but at 24 weeks a baby is still unlikely to survive, but is at that point labelled "viable"). To be fair, I didn't know I was pregnant with Connie until I was 12 or 13 weeks. If I'd had doubts over a termination, I would've needed time to make a decision. Lowering the stage of pregnancy at which terminations are carried out only limits choice and forces women to carry unwanted children. Edited because I need to drink coffee before I post in future. I don't mean to sound disrespectful to anyone's views Edited again to say I'm not ignoring you Kazz

Completely and utterly pro choice under all circumstances

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yo...ire/4946354.stm We're 2 minutes away from the Merry Melon. I think we've even been in this man's taxi. I can't help but feel they might have got it wrong when they say it's not racially motivated. Tensions are high here and the BNP have been door to dooring and leafleting all this week. I wish the BNP would feck orf and die.

Morning all

Oh my God, are they like TENS machines then? Because I used a TENS in labour and I would imagine that would seriously ow me chuff. Especially if you didn't think to check the setting before insertion. Flippin' heck. Now I'm disappointed you said they weren't fun. I imagine a twitchy flue would be quite a lot of fun, but not now I'm mentally linking it with TENS machines.

Awww Mel <won't hug you tooo hard LOL>. Maybe we should have a club?

They have two sizes, one larger for slack faj mothers like me (said tongue in cheek!!) But I think this would be more appropriate, as apparently the Mooncup relies on your vaginal muscles holding it in place (my pelvic floor can't hold in my water never mind a bucket) Edit: Of course I was stitched like a virgin after my three, honest guv.

I've found a better method. Depo provera. No monthlies for 3 years now <Disclaimer: please be aware that although KathyM is the funtain of knowledge, she is not however a general practitionner or medical surgeon or gynaecologicalist. Please consult the Oracle (Dr Hilary) before trying potentially dangerous medications.> Is this one?

I am sporting a lurvely blue bonce, lump hasnt gone either, so Baz keeps calling me Merrick.

I suspect I'm the same

Congrats Alex!! Dans' back - and hes got this record thing that goes with him to the Learning Support Centre, and then on to school with him (looks like it's to do with building confidence I think as it's all grades for what he's done today). He got all As so he's well chuffed. On the downside, I am so accident prone this month its unbelievable. Not only have I crushed my finger in the garlic crusher last week, then bonked my elbow last week, I've just bumptied me head really daftly. Got a big lump on me forehead, don't I feel a pillock.

Thanks Gemstone and Wendy. Think I'm a bit over-hormonal today.

Who's Dan? This is Dan: PMSL hang on while I get a more flattering picture..... (on the right obviously). He's my middle son and is struggling at school because of dylexia among other problems with self esteem, speech, etc. He's possibly the most gorgeous intelligent child on the planet. And although you wont believe me after that top pic (PMSLMAO), he's also a dreamboat. Did anyone notice the fact that I couldn't type dyslexia properly? How apparopriate. LOL. Edited again: apparopriate?! FFS!

Well, Dan's at the support centre now - he's there for 6 weeks. He looked ever so scared when I left him. Want to run and get him.

To punish us. Dan starts his course at the support centre at a different school today. He's excited, I'm nervous as hell. I've run out of coffee in my cup, am sat here with a fag and a towel on my head, and I have to set off in 0 mins.