Have to say I can understand where you're coming from Claire. My dad was born in Ireland before the republic was born (he was a lot, lot older than my mum, ). He witnessed neighbours being tortured by the black and tans, and local areas being 'cleared' of poor people so that cattle and sheep could be grazed, while those disposessed of homes were forced to live in ditches. However, he chose to come in live in England, as a way of earning a living, and always sent money home to his folks. He did face some terrible racism in the early days (for example many 'digs' would say no irish). But his attitude was that the past was the past, (awful though it was), he took people as he found them, and he was grateful for the opportunties he had in England to improve his lifestyle (believe me if you saw where his entire family were raised - it reduced me to tears when I first saw it). He was very into sport , and although he would always support a team from Eire or Northern Ireland first, after that he would support any UK team against 'foreign' opposition. If it came to England versus another UK country, he would support the land he made his home in. I don't give a fig about sport, but if I had to, would support any UK country over a foreign one. Don't forget England was invaded many times, and some of our most famous kings came from Welsh and Scottish stock (the Tudors and the Stuarts). Doesn't make me dislike the Welsh or Scottish though.