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  3. Jobless Family With 12 Kids Get £500,000 House

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    Who with, and what's it called? Last time I looked into insuring myself, it was so prohibitively expensive to get cover for the things that seemed more likely to actually happen, that I decided I'd just take the risk.

     

    Well I'm with Northern Rock (my mortgage provider) and they insure me for DOUBLE my mortgage value payment to cover living expenses (gas / electric / council tax/ secured loans etc... for 24 months if due to sickness / accident / enforced unemployment (termination of contract prematurely) for an extra £17 / month on my mortgage payment AND i get free "emergency service" (broken boiler / pipes / roof) etc.... thrown in...

  4. Jobless Family With 12 Kids Get £500,000 House

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    It is not this family of 14. They are simply a by-product.

     

    But it is this family of 14. There are hundreds of others like them, not neccessarily with loads of kids, but will not get off their backsides to get a job because they get more in handouts from the governement. I am pretty sure we all know someone like this.

     

    Thay are NOT a by-product they are THEMSELVES....... :rolleyes:

     

     

    Disability Living Allowance is not means tested, if entitled you can get it regardless of what other people in your family earn.

     

    TY :flowers:

     

     

    I wouldn't be so sure about that Scooby. If you are single with no children, you qualify for virtually nothing. If you are single, no children and self employed and things go wrong, you're in an even worse position :( That happened to me a few years ago and I had to battle tooth and claw to claim job seekers and council tax benefit for the few wks I was out of work. The job seekers was £56 and a few pennies. That amount of money is nearly impossible to live on. If I'd needed it I could have got housing benefit too, but only upto £65 a week, anything more and it would have had to come out of my js benefit, or of course move. Needless to say I was job hunting and back in work PDQ and now save all I can, so that if I'm ever in the same position again I can add a few veggies to the value beans on toast :dry:

     

    ps Scoobs - agree totally about the war !

     

    PS - If you are self employed (like me) spend £10 a month on insurance for when you don't work (to cover your average wage) and you should be OK :flowers:

     

     

    they aren't entitled to anything as my dad is still being paid by work :glare:

     

    Well you should be claiming on the fact that your mom CANNOT work.....

  5. Jobless Family With 12 Kids Get £500,000 House

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    But a sudden change in circumstances that leads to your being unable to work for a while/for good (for example an accident) is different to making the decision to have 12 children and expecting other people to pay for their upkeep isn't it?

     

    Yes, I don't disagree BUT there WASN'T a decision to have 12 kids - it was a combination of two partnerships and the "fruit" of that partnership - I presume (probably incorrectly) that they didn't look at the benefit aspect of it because they (appear) to be in love......

     

     

    Scooby that is not entirely correct. My stepmum has been in hopsital for 3 months and she is not entitled to anythnig even though she has worked all her life. As my dad is still on full pay from his job, they have been told that his wage is sufficient for them both. She is currently getting SSP from her employers.

     

    Yet we want to get her:

    - a mobility allowance for a car that is equipped to carry her

    - disability allowance

     

    So please tell me why it is acceptable to give a scrounging family of 12 thousands of pounds of money yet a 50 plus year old woman who has worked all her life, then has an accident which will affect the rest of her life is entitled to nothing because her partner works??

     

    So, dont rely on the government for anything.

     

    Difficult one (and I don't know the individual circumstances), but if your mom has worked all her life i presume she has paid tax / NI / etc...all her life IF this IS the case - the situation is wrong... :unsure: If your mom is getting SSP - your dad can claim an allowance for looking after her - carers allowance which i am told will be the ammount of time he would earn at work (at the hourly rate he would actualy earn) for remaining at home to look after your mom...

     

     

    good point but i think the figure is six or seven times more budget for social security than for armed forces and education budget. Unsustainable and totally wrong. imo.

     

    At least these people paid into the system at one time. Unlike migrants who come over with the one aim of finding free housing, free healthcare and handouts.

     

    And what about the super rich who use the UK as a tax haven and probably contribute LESS to the UK than the Gillespies have done in the past?

     

    There is a HUGE problem here. It is not this family of 14. They are simply a by-product.

     

    Maybe it is (the budget figure) BUT if this IS the case - be thankful that you live in a society that spends this kind of money for the populous....... :flowers:

     

    I REFUSE to comment on the "migrant" theme..... I AM a migrant (dad was Italian) and he contributed MORE tax to the UK government than anyone else I know - AND he owned 2 restaurants when he died - giving dozens of people work....

    I (being the SON of a migrant) IN YOUR WORDS!!! have been brought up with both Anglo / Italian parentage, seen the benefits and misfits of both cultures - have FOUGHT in a Gulf War (Italian National Service) and TBH have never been given ANY benefits from ANY country despite the SH*TE i went through....(I WILL NOT TALK ABOUT IT!!!!) - I have seen the money that war demands - I do not lie.......

  6. Jobless Family With 12 Kids Get £500,000 House

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    Just another speculative post to make people think (because I like to) :biggrin:

     

    I find it interesting how a lot of people are saying things along the lines of "I don't like the fact / I resent etc.... that my taxes are paying for them....."

     

    Personally, I'm not that bothered, because I know (hopefully :unsure: ) that if my circumstances should change the government would be able to help me.

     

     

    What I DO resent is the fact that far more of my taxes are being spent on a war in the Middle East (where countless lives are being lost) that should not have come about in the first place :angry:

  7. Jobless Family With 12 Kids Get £500,000 House

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    Just skipped through this thread and I am not going to judge the family concerned, but I think there is an argument for a decent standard of living in the UK, which it has become apparent that a lot of people cannot afford and by that I mean decent accomodation at a fair price with a council tax system that really does need updating.

     

    Nobody has questioned whether it is against the parent's religion to not use birth control methods - it is a possibility (but I doubt it), but he has shot himself in the foot about saying he is better off through NOT working - I'm pretty sure the Jobcentre would have 'phoned him by now. :biggrin:

     

    Just as a side note (and in my experience) this sort of thing does not happen abroad. Firstly, because the Welfare State (as it is pretty much unique in it's English guise) doesn't exist to the same extent and secondly because there appears to be more of an extended family unit abroad whereby there is (usually) someone close at hand to help should the going get a bit too tough.

  19. Fao Scooby Dobie

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    BTW - did you copy your avatar from my msn - thats the one i have for ASS - so when i write something like..errr.....glass, it comes up gl(shake ur ass) - which is quite embarrasing when you forget you have that emotion......PMSL :biggrin:

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