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  1. There are still 2 separate pages on DL for Lucky, so she must have been put on 3 times to start with! Will get it sorted later, but meanwhile I am bumping this up as there has been absolutely no sign of this poor girl who must be very scared as she won't have a clue where she is. Please can any Fugees in the area or with contacts there put your thinking caps on and see if there is anything you can do to help spread the word.

     

    Thank you :flowers:

     

     

    Theres been one possable sighting today,

    just down the road at the petrol station,

    only thing is it was this morning and we only found out this afternoon,

    so no sign of her around now, theres lots of wooded areas round there,

    so she could be hiding anywere.

     

    jane

  2. Oscar is only 7 months old and is already in his second home, he was origanaly taken from a home were he was never walked or trained,

    the young lad who took him on now can't cope with him, he's a typical puppy whos not had any direction in his life,

    he's looking for a rescue or a new home, oscar does need some training and needs his jabs and to be neutered,

    it isnt urgent, but the lad realy cant cope anymore, as oscar is taking over his life to the point - he can't even leave him alone,

    he's already been chewing wires and messing in the house, hes still with his owner and is in the wigan/leigh area.

     

    From meeting him yesterday, i felt he was just a young dog that needs to know what is wanted from him, he wasnt over the top

    and quite happy in himself, he's around medium size and is propably not going to grow anymore,

    he has now been socalised with other dogs and people, and all's he wants to do is play.

     

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    Thanks

     

    Jane

  3. LSD 2934/3/M:

     

    Lurcher - dog (neutered)

    Broken coated

    White and brindle

    Collie marked head, brindle patches

    Microchipped to Lurcher Link

    Height: 27ins

    Age: 6 yrs appx

    Wearing a Lurcher collar + ID tag

    Name is " Jed"

    Went missing from: St Ninians, Stirling, Scotland on 23/3/09

    Circumstance of loss: Was out on a walk, went off after a rabbit with his JRT friend. The JRT returned and Jed didn't

    Additional Info: Jed is a Lurcher Link rescue dog and almost died of HGE when he first came to us. Any information gratefully rec'd.

     

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  4. Thanks Jane- I know exactly which dog I think it is but have never been able to get access to owners or photos. LSB2771/1/L

    I may be wrong but the one that turned up about 15/20 mins from where she got stolen sounds so like her & appear about 10days after she was stolen-without a pic he cant say it is or it isn't. It would be fantastic for this girl if it was Lucy & they wanted her back. I cant contact them to find out if their dogs back or not

     

    Thanks for the other info about traps- am onto it

     

     

    Will Pm kaye on LL and see if she can contact them, i think kayes registered on hear - but its very rare she comes on.

  5. Try Manuka Honey you will need the 10+, and it will need bandage changed everyday - you can get it from most places now,

     

    on one of the other forums i go on, someone on there - there dog got its tail trapped in the door,

    and split it down to the bone, the vet wanted to amputate straight away,

    but with daily bandage changes - using the honey and water flushes,

    the tail has healed up very well, it did take quite a few weeks for it to heal as he kept knocking it

    but it did heal up.

  6. Dogs do great after the op, most are up and running around with in weeks,

    the lurcher link race day we did not long ago, to raise funds for LL,

    we had a tripod race, all 3 dogs have only had one of there back legs removed with in the last year,

    Dorry one of the dogs, went through the same - skin graph after skin graft, and it never worked they tried for months,

    Dorrys owner will even tell you its the best thing she ever did having the leg removed, Dorry is much happier.

     

    Not a very good picture, but it shows they can still move like the wind.

     

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  7. The biorb isnt really designed for putting goldfish in to,(although i know it states on the box)

    they are messy fish and the filters cant cope with them, not to mention they do grow

    and grow, my last gold fish i had to give, as they did out grow the tank,

    they was in a 24" tank and they grow to over 8 inches, they now live in a friends pond,

    for the biorb it would be better to put smaller fish in,

    mountain minnow or something like guppy's are ideal, although they are tropical - they can live in lower temps,

     

     

    you need to cycle the tank for at least a couple of weeks, until your ammonia levels have dropped,

    white spot can be cured easily, but the stress of moving to a new tank and the tank not being cycled could have

    lowered there amunity (sp) even more - so they couldn't fight it.

  8. If you do decide on one - just make sure its securely bolted down to a solid base,

    i had one and in very high winds it ended up in next doors garden,

    when i got it back it was that twisted the scrap man ended up taking it.

  9. But you love to see dogs ripping a hare to pieces :ohmy:

     

     

    Can i ask where i have said that, don't think i have,

    so can you not jump to presumptions - thank you

    hare coursing is illegal, when a dog is lure coursing it is chasing a "Plastic bag"

    or on the track its chasing a mechanical hare,

     

    And for your information my dog would not rip anything to pieces, she was trained by her old owners

    to bring live to hand - so i know if she did actually ever catch anything (which i doubt she will shes to old)

    she would bring it back alive and un-hurt.

  10. Jane/Terrier...... honest question time....

     

    I and a lot of others have said I'd be prepared to lose 'my' breed (greyhounds) if that's what it meant to end racing.

     

    Would you guys not be prepared to lose lure coursing/fun running/whatever it is you do to save tens of thousands of deaths each year?

     

    I don't actually believe that would happen - as was said earlier, people still hunt with dogs, it's 'The Hunts' affected. But I'm trying to gauge what is more important to you - the sport you personally partake in or the bigger picture?

     

    The dogs are more important - which is why i and many others take our dogs racing, it is important to me and others that the dogs get to run in a safe environment whilst doing something they love and the track or lure coursing offers that, it is also important to me that my dog is happy, and i know she is at her most happiest when she is chasing something, if i could get that else where i would would happily go.

     

     

    I never doubted that you would like to see Greyhound racing go Jane, You are bringing up ideas that others haven't thought about.

     

    We all love to see our dogs run and there are other ways of running our dogs without the Greyhound racing industry. At many agriculture shows they now have Terrier racing and is very popular and I have seen Whippets run over the same course at these shows.

     

    Terrier racing now -i love to see dogs doing what comes naturally and i love to see the dogs coursing,

    but i think terrier racing needs to be sorted out a bit better, i will never sit and watch them race - as at the end they end up ripping each other to shreds, last year at one of the shows it took five men to separate the terriers as they was just fighting none stop, one of them had riped open the others lips, as the blokes where pulling them apart.

  11. The more I think about this, the more I come to this conclusion:

     

    To defend greyhound racing and want to keep it, you either need to be:

     

    a) oblivious of the facts

    b) actively involved

    c) a callous person who really doesn't care about the dogs welfare

     

    Given the facts and first hand experiences have been added to this thread for many days now, no-one reading it can be in the a) category. So the defenders have to be b) or c), which is downright worrying on an animal welfare forum :(

     

    I would say no to all 3,

    i do know what go's on in the racing industry - have seen it for myself.

    i have never been involved in the racing industry - and never will be, dont even own a grey.

    C) wont even answer that one.

     

    i would like greyhound racing to go - never have said that i wouldn't,

    but what does concern me, is what about those people who do it just for the love of seeing there dogs

    doing something they was breed to do, the love of watching them run and have fun,

    these people are going to be ostracized because of the want of racing banned,

     

    whats to stop it all being banned - including lure coursing,

    after all its still a form of racing .

  12. I am thinking various thoughts.

     

    Firstly, its more likely that welfare reforms/lack of attendance at tracks could potentially end the affordability of the majority of greyhound owners. That wouldn't necessarily end racing but it could create problems in that it would really be those only in it for money that would be able to financially sustain the "sport". Which may mean longer term that the welfare aspect could become hidden deeper.

     

    One thing I have learned is that your Joe Bloggs owner does it for the competitiveness rather than plain old money. Thats not to say money won't come into it. However you then have to look at who are the big moneymakers in the sport. The bookies. The trainers who are taking and running BAGS dogs. The tracks through BAGS sponorship. The greyhound dealers. The breeders.

     

     

     

     

    Any law made in England would have a direct impact on the Irish breeders which would mean a significant reduction in the numbers that are bred. I would strongly doubt the Irish racing industry could financially support itself to be able to continue and would eventually fold. I also strongly suspect those who have made mega money from breeding greyhounds (good stud dogs 2000 euros a pop) would find something more profitable than greyhounds if the money wasn't there.

     

    Majority of the dogs going through the auctions in Ireland are either bought by people who will then transport them to England/UK or by the dog dealers who will buy in Ireland and bring them to the English auctions. Therefore I imagine that if the Irish greyhound Board was able to sustain greyhound racing in their country without the financial boost the UK gives them whatever they did breed and sell would be a significant reduction in what the current situation is.

     

    Peterborough, Perry Barr etc auctions are nothing compared to what you face in the Irish auctions. At least there is a pretence for animal welfare (believe it or not) in the UK which there certainly isnt in Ireland. I would like to think these horrific places would be a thing of the past shoudl racing end in the UK for whatever reason.

     

    Cyprus also has racing as does Morocco although Morocco was supposed to close, it didn't. But again, a lot of these dogs are transported out but there are fewer transports now Spain has stopped and its unlikely that export abroad would be viable to sustain the Irish breeding/dealing/racing industry.

     

     

     

    Fab post Cycas. The difficulty is that people hear 'ban greyhound racing' and they jump immediately to all sorts of conclusions instead of listening/reading what this could entail - its frustrating!

     

    I just want to add that GA Scotland is a separate organisation and our 'mission' is to outlaw the breeding, training and racing of greyhounds in Scotland. This is because if same was banned in England or any other part of the UK, Scotland would not recognise this. However Westminster retains power over gambling, taxes etc in Scotland therefore we could not achieve a ban of betting on dogs in Scotland - that would have to be UK wide legislation.

     

    We have written up how a ban could be brought in but I think its more specific to Scotland than the rest of the UK with the exception of maybe Wales. Thats because Scotland has five flapping tracks and only one NGRC hence why I've put the bit about racing becoming unaffordable for most which could lead to the end of it in Scotland if the right reforms were brought in.

     

    Its all very complex though. Whatever way no legislation would ban greyhound racing without a time period - we recommended two year period which would mean there would be a reduction in dogs bought in for racing an it would naturally die out. n Given teh average career is 18 months this shouldn't create much more wastage than 'normal'.

     

     

     

    My understanding is that there are some still being transported to Spain and that could be the reason behind it. Our 'mate' Normilles is still doing the occasional run apparently.

     

     

     

     

    What are you basing that theory on? Personally I dont' think for one second those who race greyhounds would change to whippets. They're different dogs for a start and any legislation which ends greyhound racing would take into account any such issues that could be transferred to other animals.

     

    I dont' think this is a valid argument for not banning greyhound racing or has any real basis other than to worry whippet owners. Remember the scaremongering (that failed to materialise) when the hunting with dogs legislation came in?

     

     

    I didn't put it down as a valid argument for not banning greyhound racing - where have i said that.

    what i am basing it on is the amount of clubs and tracks that are now racing whippets, the amount of whippets being breed for racing,

    there are probably around 30 whippet clubs round the country maby more - i haven't looked properly,

    most of these are being raced at track's, the track near us - now classes its self as a grey and whippet track,

    and i know there are mostly whippets being raced there now,

    i know a few people who race greys that do race whippets as well.

     

    as ive said before - the hunting legislation well its a load of c**p,

    There are still quite a lot of people who hunt with dogs.

    the only thing it affected was the hunts.

  13. Thats what i would be more worried about once greyhound racing is banned,

    unless they put something in the ban, then whippet racing could end up taking over,

     

    the data base on the BWRA has over 23,624 entries and thats just pedigree whippets,

    theres no knowing how many non -pedigree's there are racing,

    at the mo pups dont need to be regesterd (sp) until there ready for racing,

    so god knows how many pups are being breed,

     

    the data base is still under construction so is not a full and complete record.

     

    http://www.thebwra.co.uk/index.htm

     

    its getting to the point, it will end up being like greyhound racing,

    if greyhound racing was banned, and whippet racing wasn't - then i think those who used to do greyhound racing

    would think about taking up whippet racing.

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