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  1. You have my email address if any of you wish to continue this/see photos. But as you are all well respected people there really is not a lot of point in me continuing this. I will answer any further questions via email & you can publish my replies. Visits made by yourselve were done several months after the 'clean up' I have a email reply from the RSPCA stating that this has now been passed to their legal department. Why would they do that if all was well?

  2. agreed everyone is enttled to an opinion...

     

    so let me just pick up on another point you have made.

     

    you feel its NOT ok for a rescue to charge its standard donation fee for a dog with "issues".. lets say a dog with some reasonably serious aggression issues?

     

    No I do not feel it ok to ask for a standard fee for a dog with issues. If you look on my site you will see a little one called Amber who I have spent a considerable amount of money on so far is up for adoption with no fee required. This is because she has issues & will need the 'special' home that to me is more important that banging out dogs for £150 that some of which were clearly ill.

     

    & in answer to another question yes if I foster for another rescue I get paid just like I pay my foster carers.

     

    If you want to name the other 'rescue' please do.

  3. Why is that fact that they cleaned up a bad thing - this is what I can't understand. Surely for the dogs in their care cleaning up is a good thing. NO ONE is saying that things at MR were always good, but it sounds like things are now a lot better and that has to be positive, doesn't it?

    I've had dogs / cats from three rescues - two of which are nationally recognised and were held up as model rescues by DP on the MR thread. Neither of them checked up on my references / homecheck - but MR did. NO rescues are perfect - not even yours.

     

    Cleaning up is one thing, doing it because you know that you are going to be visited is another. If all was well there would be no need to 'clean up'

    & yes it is great that things have improved, just a pity that 'rescued' dogs suffered.

    & when it went to fetch the dog I was asked for NO ID, proof of address or references???? I had to give them my address so they could collect the dog.

    NO rescues are perfect - not even yours. ?? Did not realise that you had been to mine???? But you are most welcome anytime, I do not even need any warning. ACO's visit me on a regular basis if they are in Grantham on a purely social call, you can to.

  4. and to be fair why the hell should she?

     

    just so some people who had laready made up their minds could lay into her even more?

     

    out of interest what would be your opinion of someone who handed (the words I heard used were threw)* a dog back to a rescue that they were fostering when the rescue wouldnt let the dog go to an elderly man becasue the dog did not like men?

     

    would you say that that person could possibly have an axe to grind with the rescue concerned

     

    *seeing as heresay evidence seems to be admissable

     

    Why dont you just ask me as it is I you are refering to?

     

    I was asked to take the dog in question & find a home for him as they did not have anyone on their books that wanted a Yorkie. I collected him. After spending several days/baths cleaning him up & working on his issues, one of my members was keen to adopt the dog even though he had 'issues', I then called MR & asked if there was any vac card as I had possibly found a home for the dog. It was then I was told that I was only 'fostering' the dog!!!! & that the gentleman would have to go through them & pay £150 for a 'dog' with issues. He at this point declined as he said that he was not prepared to pay that much for the dog that would need vaccinating/microchipping at his expense. I then told MR that I did not foster FOC as I have my own rescue & if I ever need a fosterer I pay them (I can prove I pay them if you wish?) She laughed & said that I was to return the dog. I told them to come fetch him. I actually sent him back with a collar, lead, a toy that he had adopted & a blanket. As for 'throwing' the dog back, well the bloke that fetched him was terrified of the dog & said that he would crate 'it' up!! & held the dog at arms length. Wish I had kept the emails/txt msgs that I recieved from MR. As you say "seeing as heresay evidence seems to be admissable" I had no axe to grind as at the time I was not aware of all the other poor dogs that have suffered. Every one is entitled to an opinion. This is mine.

     

     

    and to be fair why the hell should she?

     

    just so some people who had laready made up their minds could lay into her even more?

     

    out of interest what would be your opinion of someone who handed (the words I heard used were threw)* a dog back to a rescue that they were fostering when the rescue wouldnt let the dog go to an elderly man becasue the dog did not like men?

     

    would you say that that person could possibly have an axe to grind with the rescue concerned

     

    *seeing as heresay evidence seems to be admissable

    ok so let me get this right, and I am aware that I am picking up on a single point,

     

    do you feel that it is totally unacceptable for a rescue to hand over a dog that is in a condition such that it took 3 baths to get rid of the stench of pooh, wee etc? should that rescue be subjected to the same treatment as Mill Rescue? Especially if said dog had been there for more than a few days

     

    In answer to your question 'Yes' Totally unacceptable.

  5. i assume you have proof of your allegations yorkie girl, by proof I mean physical evidence not heresay from people who claim to have seen stuff? If so feel free to send it to me and I will pass onto the RSPCA. What have YOU actually seen and can prove.

     

    all i can do is reiterate what I saw, I went with an open mind and had it been a pile ofm pooh I would have said so, I had no preconcieved opinion. The same conclusion being drawn by the Dogs trust and others who have actually been there seem to concur with what we saw. That the RSPCA visit fairly regularly and still the rescue continues operating...

    What would be your feelings on:

     

    a rescue that let a dog out in such a condition that it took 3 baths at a professional groomers to get rid of the stench?

     

    or a rescue organisation that attempted to transport an unpredictable biter across the country in a transport run that involved several handovers in public places.. and were not exactly forthcomming with the information on the dogs background?

    I am fed up of the bitchyness and double standards in rescue. we are meant to be there to help each other out and in turn to help the various animals who society have abandoned not point score and make "ourselves" look good.

     

    some people dont seem to grasp what rescue is really about...

     

    I still have the 'Photo graphs' of the dog that was handed to me. Would you like to see them. As for the dead pups, wold you not want to know why the suddenly died?? Could have been a serious infection that may have spread & put other dogs in danger?

    The dog I 'took' in had to have more than 3 baths to dislodge the poo from his back end!! Is that acceptable. It was not a dog that had 'just arrived that day or the day before but several weeks before!! Not bitching, just saying what I personally saw/took in/heard. Just like you say what you saw/heard. Are we all telling lies including several differeny vets from all over the country? The RSPCA Inspector told me when he called me to update me that it was clear to him that they had 'cleaned up'.

  6. Those of us with more positive experiences, or who dared to suggest that things were less than balanced in the thread were moderated so that our posts were not displayed. The whole 'investigation' was handled extremely maliciously.

    Several weeks of off forum talks? Yet DP has consistently said that MR refused to respond - so which is it?

     

    I said that talks off forum. When invited Mr refused to respond on forum.

  7. I like to base my opinions on what I already know from personal experience and on the reports of people who I know and trust rather than on the opinions of people I don't know or people whose judgement I mistrust.

     

    I don't have a problem with rescues being 'investigated' however the way MR was treated was not IMO an investigation. Nor IMO is a rescue forum a suitable place for an investigation.

     

    I have previously seen other rescues 'investigated' by forum users who have set themselves up as judge and jury, they didn't appear to receive a fair trial. I have no reason to believe the trial of MR was fair either.

     

    There was several weeks of off forum talks betweem MR & DP. It was only when all was totally denied even though there are photos/vet reports from several vets/eye witness accounts that it went public. Plenty of opportunity was had by all to sort things out off forum, they were not accepted.

  8. if you must quote me yorkie girl quote me properly or dont do it at all. i said investigate in the same way

     

    Did not realise that I had actually 'quoted' you!

    I said that

    & as for other rescues being investigated I hope to doG they are too if they are ill treating/neglecting animals.

    Apologies for leaving out in the same way part as I believe that they should be if they too are/have practiced in the manner that MR have/do.

    Why do you hope not anyway? Would you not wish to see that justice was done & people speak for the animals that can't?

  9. ditto that

     

    I don't think Yorkie girl that the collar you refer to on that horse was 'embedded', from what I read on DP one day a poster said she saw a horse with a collar that it would soon out grow. Now there's a lot of difference between the two. I'm not trying to pick holes etc just that I'm so fed up of hearing about Mill Rescue and the past and what they might have/did do/haven't done etc - case in point with the head collar. I am not naive and often there is no smoke without fire BUT I am pleased things appear to be in good order during Pingu's and Helly's visit. Pleased the dogs and other animals are well and happy. Pleased that this is a good result! It's time to move on I think...

     

     

    Well looks like all that has happened is acceptable & lets all go & have a nice cup of tea shall we?? Is that not what us british do when things go wromg, but we are not big enough to admit it???

     

    & as for other rescues being investigated I hope to doG they are too if they are ill treating/neglecting animals.

  10. Stop shipping over van loads of dogs would be a good start. And reply in person to the people that have had sick/dying/dead dogs from there. Some have even sent recorded delivered letters & still not response from MR or the offer of compensation for the several thousand pounds that some spent I the first week or so of adopting a dogs from there. That would be the least they could do. An explanation of how different names/breeds appear on the 6 week free insurance' certificates??

  11. Of course I called them, in fact several times. They said they would look into it!!!!!! Unfortunately at that time they did not really see the urgency of a visit as I had cleaned him up. I know several ACO's & Inspectors as I was treasurer for Lincs East branch for several years & they said that as long as there was adequate food & water there really was not a lot they could do at that time (this was several weeks before others came forward).

  12. I am probably not welcome in posting what I am about to, but I would like to add my side of things please. I have been there (before the great 'clean up' - RSPCA Inspectors words not mine) & seen with my own eyes what was going on/wrong. I took in a dog from there that was in an apalling state, he had poo welded to his rear end that ws not 'fresh' from the day of collection, in fact it took severl hours of standing hm in the shower a gently teasing the poo from his bum. (I have photographic evidence, but as some one has said in so much as 'photos lie!!' & also my neighbours who were horrified at his condition), his eyes were also very badly matted/gummed, again took nearly 2 days of gently washing them with warm water & cotton wool pads. I have got several pm's from an ex volunteer that are dated before all the 'horrors' became public telling me of the 2 pups that died & they were just buried in the field, no PM or even a vet to see why they died. A horse with an inbedded head collar, dead sheep that were just burnt on a fire etc (if anyone would like a copy of these please ask & I will send them to you off forum). Heard a volunteer being told to use 'Billys' vaccination card for another dog that was being collected that day. True they do not live in luxury, but many offered help before again all the stories became public & they were turned down. Why??? One can only assume that if help was accepted a lot of the dogs would have gone to other rescue thus a loss of revenue?? They had plenty of warning that the RSPCA & DT was going to visit, amazing what you can do with time on your side. I can honestly say I have never adopted out a sick dog nor a dog that has died & if you can tell of others that have then they too should be investigated in the same way. My doors are always open, all reciepts/bills/vaccination records/micro chip records etc are always available to be inspected & I can offer all the names/numbers of those that have adopted/visited for anyone to ask questions. If I ever thought for one minute that I was in trouble I would ask for help not allow dogs to die. Ignorance/greed/stupidity there is no excuse for what happened. Simple. For those who seem to feel that 'we all make mistakes' doG forbid they are mistakes like the ones that happened at MR & are obviously not animal lovers. I do not live in a glass house I live in the real world.

  13. Phew thats a relief. I thought in my old age I may actually be banned from somewhere for the first time in my life :laugh: Bit disappointed now :mecry: . Thank you for letting me know that being a Yorkshire Terrorist lover has not led me to having a warning slapped on me after all someone has to put up with the 'undercover Rotties' :laugh:

  14. Hi & firstly may I apologise as I have just realised that I have been very rude & not said hello to everyone before posting :whistle: So sorry. Well as I am sure some of you would have gathered by know I am a Yorkie Nutter (well someone has to be :laugh: ). I run a small rescue centre for all little Yorkies & other small breeds (they have to be as Charlie cat is under the misguided conception that all dogs are small :unsure: ). I have 3 Chinese Crested Hairless that are permanant residents as when I got them they were very abused/traumatised so I failed there as a fosterer, I also am owned by a 7mth Yorkshire Terrorist (not a sp mistake, he is a terror :rolleyes: ), oh & 3 rescue cats. I have fostered about 7 chinese Crested Hairless & Powder Puffs that were labelled as unhomable & they are now happily with their new mummies & daddies & since Christmas already have taken in & rehomed 7 Yorkies for various reasons. They are a passion of mine & when I lived in South Wales I rescued & rehomed over 280 Yorkies & a few other small breeds many of which were 'Puppy Farm' ex breeders & also Newport Pound would pass them to me. I am unable to do my rescue work on such a large scale as I did then (I was rich then :wacko: ) as they all live in the house with us, but will never turn any little one away.

    Thank You, you have been a great audience & I will be back soon. :flowers:

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