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My uncle has been supporting a small colony of feral cats who took up residence in one of his outbuildings in a fairly remote field. The the help of the CPL they managed to trap and neuter all the cats a few years ago then released them back to the barn to live out their lives, so the colony had dwindled naturally to about 7 elderly cats who he's been feeding regularly.
Unfortunately exactly the sort of thugs described above came out one night recently with dogs and guns and killed the lot, most of them were torn to pieces and left where they lay
Other farms in the area have had similar problems with 'lampers' driving out from the nearby town and killing anything that moves.
How sad and destructive to take innocent lives for pleasure; your poor uncle
. I caught part of a TV programme the other day in which a professional rugby or football player was demonstrating how, off the pitch, he likes to shoot for relaxation and he was filmed shooting a deer, grinning inanely and saying how much of a buzz he got from it; what a role model and what a moronic documentary maker to use him.
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I can't see what pleasure anyone gets out of seeing a poor fox torn limb from limb, or what the problem with a "fake fox" is ?
As to them being a pest, foxes and deer are surely entitled to eat too. Who decided birds were more important & why? We also kill far more animals than foxes do I would imagine. Can you imagine the out cry if fox lovers decided to go lamping?
As to doing it in an area that's 2/3 houses & where there may be domestic pets around etc, anyone that thick shouldn't be allowed anywhere near anything more than a water psitol
I couldn't agree more with your comments about the dangers of lamping in a built up area. I think the reality is that people who go lamping are not sportsmen or environmentalists but often thugs who can afford guns, 4x4s with bull bars and dogs, who kill for pleasure.
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What a sad tale with a tragic end for the dog and the child of the family. However, there has to be accountability on both sides, that of the farmer who was protecting his livliehood but went about it in a cruel way when he could have approached the family to control the dog unless it was actually chasing and attacking the lambs and ewes at the time (the description doesn't sound as if it was). The dogs owner is, in my view, most accountable, however. He knew the dog was out, he knew there was livestock close by and seems to have taken his time before looking for the dog. Where does common sense prevail as a caring responsible dog owner. Even for 'townies' did he not worry about his dog straying in an area new to him? Did he think his dog was going to play with the sheep or any other livestock in the area? He doesn't appear to have had much thought for ensuring the safety of his pet and has paid a very high price.
This kind of thoughtlessness can have such sad consequences; having lived in both rural areas and coastal regions I've seen people walking dogs on cliff paths and being totally shocked when their dog chases a rabbit and goes over the cliff edge or falls into the sea because they are off lead and run off the promenade at high tide and get swept away.
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Hi Lyndsay, welcome and what lovely pictures of your little one. I'm fostering an elderly yorkie for the Oldies currently and she's doing really well after major changes in her life; they really are wonderful characters. When you do take off round Europe keep posting, my son and daughter in law run a pet shop in Sospel in Provence and love meeting dog loving visitors from home!
Sally
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Becky,
Sorry, forgot to say that I will make the donation myself as Oldies have been wonderful in paying for veterinary treatment for this little old lady and I want to get her ready for a forever home.
Sally.
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Hi
I have just posted a fundraising idea on the fundraising section for Oldies Club - not sure if should have been in this section so thought I would post a link as well
http://www.therefuge...showtopic=50519
Becky
Becky,
Is this offer still open? I missed the original post and I have an Oldies foster yorkie who is such a sad, stressed little girl I am looking for any way forward to help her.
Sally.
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What a cute little girl, lovely pics.
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Cairn? Maybe even a bit of border collie in there somewhere!
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So sorry for your loss.
Sally.
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2 large senior dogs (12 and 14) on Pro Plan Senior twice daily with half tin Butchers in gravy or fresh cooked mince and veg to moisten; smaller geriatric collie x has a pack of Nature Diet divided in 2 meals daily with a handful of JWB puppy kibble (very few teeth!) and last thing before bed they have a pack of Nature Diet between them as a treat. They all have steady weight and what my gran used to call 'sweet tummies' - in other words no upsets and firm poos!
Newest senior dog had lots of problems with wind through digestive problems caused by neglect and being worm ridden when he was signed over in December and his first foster mum did an excellent job sorting out the worming and getting him on a healthy diet as he was very skinny; he's been with me 4 weeks and although the grandchildren are very disappointed that his spectacular belching and flatulence have largely disappeared changing to Pro Plan has helped as has the use of a raised feeder, which I use for all my oldie big dogs.
My son and his wife run a pet store and through trial and error have found Pro Plan has been best for their 3 labs and Belgian Shepherd.
Sorry to sound like an ad. for the product but it works for my lot!
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What love, patience and understanding you gave this little boy and it sounds as if it was repaid tenfold. So sorry for your loss.
Sally
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Such a sad loss .
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What a sad story ,shame it s happened in Liverpool, in which there are a lot of good people. There are gangs of feral children roaming the streets of all our cities and towns, who become aimless, vicious, amoral adolescents and adults, producing their own children who are not parented properly or at all and simply carry on living their lives with no respect for themselves, other people or animals.There are no consequences for their actions and the moment there is any suggestion of something like National Service or similar there are cries of horror. These young people don't attend school, have no work or ambition to work,grow up to live on benefits (by choice in many cases), take what they want to fund drug/alcohol habits and know their 'human rights' backwards. They live on a diet of stimuli provided by video games (usually violent) from an early age, access to pornography, lack of any boundaries or parenting and use of alcohol and drugs from 8 upwards.
In this day and age there are so many resources to support young people and give them chances in life but so many are not motivated or encouraged to take them up.I've worked in the field of social care for over 30 years and feel very sad to see this generation of aimless youngsters perpetrating such cruel acts on defenceless animals and old people (as reported in the papers this week).
Sorry for the rant but such extreme cruelty makes my blood boil and wish for serious punishment for the offenders.
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I've just been getting more and more angry reading and hearing more details of this case. If the chronology of the dogs' last hours was as reported and the PC was 'shocked' to find his dogs dead in his car having presumably forgotten they had not been transferred to a police van by himself, was he in a fit mental state to be dealing with the public in his role as a police officer in the first place, which is, of course, a matter for his superiors to answer to.
From the Mail article it appears they were left for 3 hours before he remembered them, was distracted again and they were then left another 4 hours to die in agony.
Where was the car parked? Did no other officer see the dogs in the car at any time as this was on police premises?Did noone hear the dogs bark at any time, I find it hard to believe they would not have been vocal at all. Irrespective of the heat they would have needed to be let out of the car for a comfort break anyway.
This man will have to live with this for the rest of his life which will be a major punishment in itself, but it still seems little recompense for causing the death of the dogs. This man's working life revolved around his dogs and therefore one would imagine (not unrealistically) that their basic welfare would be second nature to him, no matter how distracted. Were any of his previous investigations to do with the dogs I wonder.
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Just heard on the early evening news that the police dog handler who left his 2 dogs in his own car on the hottest day of the year 2009, has been convicted of animal cruelty.. He apparently left the GSDs in the car meaning to transfer them to the air conditioned police vehicle but got caught up in work.
6 months suspended sentence and £2,000 fine.
Enough?
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What a sad loss of such a lovely dog and what a wonderful ambassador he was for bull breeds. He exuded such calm and gentleness with his canine pupils.
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Such a pretty little face, hope she gets a lovely new family soon.
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My old 14 yr. old lab girl can't handle Metacam and has very bad legs and hips. She is enjoying a quality of life now on PLT and Zamadol which keeps her pain free and mobile enough to get around the house and garden and enjoy short walks.
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Re; previous post of mine, sorry - I meant 3 month script and my old girl had a check up before the next script was issued!
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My vet was happy to give me a 6 month prescription and I use Vet UK. It's getting to be more common practice now as people become more aware of their options.
Sally.
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I felt I needed to share my experience from this morning which took several cups of sweet tea to get over - and that was just the dogs!
I set off for our usual walk this morning in the lovely sunshine with my aged and infirm lab, stone deaf and elderly but sprightly collie x and a staffie x aged 10 who thinks she's a pup. I've only been looking after Betty the staffie x for a week and in all her 10 years she has only ever been exercised on a lead. She is a chunky monkey and has a very thick neck but I had her on a combi collar as her harness needs replacing - mistake!
We progressed in our usual slow and stately manner up the lane at the back of the house (both me and the lab have arthritic knees) and as I stopped to do a poo pick up, having let the lab off lead, I realised I was holding 3 leads but with only 1 dog attached. Betty was heading back up the lane at the speed of light having slipped her collar, giving me a backward glance as I screeched - yes, screeched, Bettyyyyyy, sounding like Michael Crawford when he was Frank Spencer.
The old lab was ambling happily in the opposite direction and I couldn't leave her so I got her lead on, headed back down the lane at which point I met Betty coming back thinking this was a really good game; I bent down to get her collar back on, she skittered off again followed by me just as the collie x decided to stop and do an enormous poo and poor old lab lady fell over her looking very surprised before getting back on her feet.
There was no sign of Betty and I was trying to listen out for horse boxes and tractors from the farm as I headed back up the lane kicking myself as I am usually totally paranoid about keeping new dogs secure for their safety. As I got to the top of the lane Betty was bouncing around waiting for me with a silly staffie grin on her face obviously thinking that in the fun chasing dogs department I was sadly lacking!
She walked very nicely back home after I got her collar and lead back on and is just getting geared up for the second excursion of the day - this time with an old but secure harness I've ferreted out from a box of old leads. collars etc. I think her off lead training and recall need some work!
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What fantastic news and what a wonderful start for the Oldies new year - well done!
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Thank you everyone for your thoughts. I miss the dear old boy very much as he was a constant presence in my life and so much of the household revolved around his needs. My old lab girl is quite flat and only brightens up when we go for a walk.Jess continued to sleep in the big bed but I couldn't justify one small cat sleeping in a very large bed on his own, neither of the other dogs would go in it in spite of regularly using it when the old boy was alive! An elderly new foster arrived yesterday and headed for the toy box that was Winston's preserve and it was bitter-sweet to see his toys being thrown around again.
Once again thank you, sharing thoughts with people who have been through the same is so helpful and I hope that in the past I have, and in time to come, will do the same.
Sally.
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So sorry for your loss. I'm sure your memories will be wonderful whenever you look at that lovely photo of the handsome boy.
Lack Of Responsibility
in Non Animal Chat
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When I lived in Lancashire on a relatively modern estate near a country park new families would move in, often young professionals with young children and within weeks would have acquired a status dog - not a bull breed but Weineramers, GSDs, labradors and collies, all working breeds requiring training and exercise.
The pups would be strutted round the estate by proud owners and walked in the fields at the back of the houses for a few months until they got bigger/dirtier/noisier and generally more demanding, at which point they disappeared, sometimes to be replaced by poodles, yorkies or bichons - what a message to give their children - pet owners of the future.
A young engineer from British Gas was at my home recently and made a fuss of my 4 dogs; he has 2 Vizlas. On the estate near his home a teenage lad has a young staffie which is never on a lead or muzzled and which is now adolescent and showing aggression to other dogs, egged on by his owner.
He has been spoken to and now sets his dog on cats, particularly those belonging to anyone who has challenged him. So far nothing can be done about him until something happens. What a world we live in.