Kathyw Posted March 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 (edited) One of the links keeps cutting out 'Explorer cannot display the page' keeps coming after a few minutes. Not your links, the email you fill in on the webpage itself is the one with the problems. Anyway while I was waiting I sent a few emails off and have typed a letter to send to all the others. Thanks again Tegs - I feel I am doing more now. I have also sent the link to friends who I know will also follow through. Edited March 18, 2008 by Kathyw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 I don't really understand the history of why China was allowed to invade Tibet, but I suspect it had a lot to do with China being a communist country and having Russia supporting them. Many countries were very afraid of Russia during the cold war. Anyway, I've just heard that the Dalai Lama is coming to the UK in May and would like to meet the prime minister. Apparently Tony Blair refused to see him on his last visit. Can anyone remember the petition site to see if there is an appropriate petition running? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantan Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Even if you think you are buying British, or from the EU, this might not necessarily be so. Many goods are imported here from China in either an unfinished state to be finished off here and it's then legit to stamp it with "manufactured in the UK" , or as component parts to be assembled with UK made stuff and similarly stamped as being manufactured here. I used to work at the Cumberland Pencil Co here in Cumbria and Ruby is still there - they face huge competition from China who manufacture pencils at a fraction of the cost of the ones made here. Where the pencil company here might make bog standard unvarnished HB pencil's at a cost of, say £5 a gross (144) the Chinese price would be 100 gross for £5 The Chinese make no attempt to use sustainable wood or recycled packaging or pay their workers a decent wage, nor do they have to conform to EU regulations on health and safety and manufacture. China's record on animal and human rights sickens me and I do try not to buy their stuff but as I pointed out earlier it is very easy to do so unwittingly. Marion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslass Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 I don't really understand the history of why China was allowed to invade Tibet, but I suspect it had a lot to do with China being a communist country and having Russia supporting them. Many countries were very afraid of Russia during the cold war. Anyway, I've just heard that the Dalai Lama is coming to the UK in May and would like to meet the prime minister. Apparently Tony Blair refused to see him on his last visit. Can anyone remember the petition site to see if there is an appropriate petition running? This one? http://www.avaaz.org/en/tibet_end_the_viol...php?cl=62137040 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krusewalker Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 I don't really understand the history of why China was allowed to invade Tibet, but I suspect it had a lot to do with China being a communist country and having Russia supporting them. Many countries were very afraid of Russia during the cold war. interestingly, chinese historical communist actions were not influenced by the USSR. despite what america may have said, the communist world was not a unifed block, working together to take over the world. the communist world fell into 2 or 3 blocks which worked against each other, as much as they did the USA. Communist China and USSR were rivals.....most smaller communist countries stated allegiance to one or the other. China was always as strong as the USSR, and is now as strong as USA, and probably stronger than present day Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathyw Posted March 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 You are so right Marion and that is a problem, short of taking things to pieces before you buy them (don't think shops would like that ) you just have to take a chance. The stuff clearly marked as 'made in china' is easy but I think in future if we are purchasing something with many components, I may well contact the manufacturer and ask if there are any chinese bits in there and then if there is I will tell them why I will not buy their product. The only thing we have that is marked 'made in china' is something his Mum bought and as he pointed out his Mum gave the money to china not me. How are the chinese allowed to get around eu regulations on health, safety and manufacture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redditchlady Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 I don't buy anything knowingly made in China, have signed the petition. Kazz xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathyw Posted March 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Got this email this morning Dear friends, In just 36 hours, 253,553 of us have supported the Dalai Lama's call for dialogue and human rights in Tibet. This is an incredible response--if each of us can get 4 more of our friends to sign the petition, we'll hit 1 million this week! Just quickly forward the email below to your friends and family with a personal note from you- Let's hopt the million mark is hit in a week and china get's the message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathyw Posted March 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 This email came this morning, they have over a million and are going for two million - if you haven't signed yet - please consider doing so. Thank youTibet: 4 days left! From: Ricken Patel - Avaaz.org ([email protected]) Sent: 27 March 2008 12:44:07 To: [email protected] ([email protected]) Dear friends, We reached our target! In just 7 days over 1 million of us have signed the petition calling for human rights and dialogue in Tibet--the fastest growing internet petition in history. As the crisis continues, it's time to deliver our petition and make sure Chinese President Hu Jintao hears our voices. An International Day of Action has been declared for Monday, March 31st. On Monday, thousands of people in cities across the world will march to Chinese embassies and consulates, and stack hundreds of boxes containing our petition outside them. 1 million signatures makes a mountain of boxes--it will send a powerful global message. We have just 4 days left until the petition delivery. Could we get to 2 million signatures in 4 days? We can do it--if every one of us recruits at least one more friend to sign the petition by forwarding the email below. -------------------------------------------------- Dear friends, After decades of repression, the Tibetan people are crying out to the world for change. The Olympic spotlight is now on China, and Tibetan leader the Dalai Lama is calling to end all riots and violence through restraint and dialogue. China's hardliners are lashing out publicly at the Dalai Lama--but many Chinese leaders believe dialogue is the best hope for stability in Tibet. The government is right now considering a crucial choice between repression and dialogue that could determine Tibet's--and China's--future. We can affect this historic choice--President Hu Jintao values China's reputation, and he needs to hear from us that the 'Made in China' brand and the upcoming Olympics in Beijing will succeed only if he chooses dialogue over the hardliners' repression. An avalanche of global people power is moving to get his attention. In just one week, over 1 million people have signed our petition, which will be delivered in rallies at Chinese embassies worldwide on Monday--click below to join the global outcry, and then forward this email to friends and family right away: http://www.avaaz.org/en/tibet_end_the_viol...hp/?cl=66980850 China's economy is dependent on "Made in China" exports that we all buy, and the government is keen to make the Olympics in Beijing this summer a celebration of a new and respected China. China is also a sprawling, diverse country with much brutality in its past, so it has good reasons to be concerned about stability--some of Tibet's rioters killed innocent people. But President Hu must recognize that the greatest danger to Chinese stability and development today comes from hardliners who advocate escalating repression, not from those Tibetans seeking dialogue and reform. The Tibetan people have suffered quietly for decades. It is finally their moment to speak--we must help them be heard. With hope and respect, Ricken, Pascal, Graziela, Iain, Paul, Galit, Milena, Ben and the whole Avaaz team Here are some links with more information on the Tibetan protests and the Chinese response: Reuters reports unrest continues: http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidate...1/idUSPEK369654 China allows first journalists back into Lhasa, monks speak out: http://www.chinapost.com.tw/china/local%20...Tibet-monks.htm Europe and the US step up calls for dialogue: http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/03/27/europe/27europe.php Prominent Chinese Intellectuals call for fair approach to Tibet: http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/03/24/asia/chinasub.php ----------- ABOUT AVAAZ Avaaz.org is an independent, not-for-profit global campaigning organization that works to ensure that the views and values of the world's people inform global decision-making. (Avaaz means "voice" in many languages.) Avaaz receives no money from governments or corporations, and is staffed by a global team based in London, Rio de Janeiro, New York, Paris, Washington DC, and Geneva. Don't forget to check out our Facebook and Myspace pages! You are getting this message because you signed "Stand with the Burmese Protesters" on 2007-09-30 using the email address [email protected]. To ensure that Avaaz messages reach your inbox, please add [email protected] to your address book. To change your email address, language settings, or other personal information, https://secure.avaaz.org/act/index.php?r=pr...37c&lang=en. , or simply go here to unsubscribe. To contact Avaaz, please do not reply to this email. Instead, write to [email protected]. You can also send postal mail to our New York office: 260 Fifth Avenue, 9th floor, New York, NY 10001 U.S.A. If you have technical problems, please go to http://www.avaaz.org. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Dobie Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Does this mean I have to give up my veggie satay and egg fried rice once a week? Just out of interest - anyone who uses / banks with HSBC - that is a Chinese bank (Hong Kong & Singapore Banking Corp), who have their fingers in many pies (or is that egg foo yungs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathyw Posted March 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 No you do not have to give up anything - you live in a democracy - you have the choice of free will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckey-lee Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 signed and passed to each and every one on my msn list so my appoligees if any body already signed and gets an email to sign again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nouggatti Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 How are the chinese allowed to get around eu regulations on health, safety and manufacture? Health and Safety regs in the EU only apply to countries in the EU. Just out of interest - anyone who uses / banks with HSBC - that is a Chinese bank (Hong Kong & Singapore Banking Corp), who have their fingers in many pies (or is that egg foo yungs) RBS/Natwest is the same, large interest in the Bank of China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathyw Posted March 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 signed and passed to each and every one on my msn list so my appoligees if any body already signed and gets an email to sign again Ah I didn't recognise the surname. Do you happen to have an older (60ish) uncle who went to Susan Lawrence Primary School and punched daily a ickle girl who had the misfortune to sit next to him until her big brother knocked him down in the playground? Thank Vivian I have replied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merledogs Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 If anyone is interested, there is a Dispatches programme about Tibet on Monday on Channel 4 at 8 pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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